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hussein.jordan said
noted ...Thank you and Best wishes
**Dont get discourage when things go beyond your imagination because the greatest glory in life is not falling but rising everytime you fall. Life is what you make it**
as always...
Tarsiers said
Thank you! ...Could you also tell us where is your location? I mean QL site in Doha?
Gica Contra said
I think Shakespeare has a ...I think Shakespeare has a title for this days: "Much Ado About Nothing"...
junarc2003 said
a good reminder to ...a good reminder to everyone... especially to those who forgets... enough of all those bashing and all that... let's be mature enough... think before u post...
"there are so many rumors about me...feel free to believe in any of'em.."
I may not be PERFECT
but PARTS of me are pretty AWESOME!
sun26872 said
.....QL ........QL melodrama..........
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
owen said
hope the above clarifies and ...hope the above clarifies and be practiced...
thanks for reminding us...
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Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
bleu said
Thanks. ...Thanks.
Dot.Com said
a boring speech :-) ...A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc
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phoenix2009 said
thank you dear Ahmad. I just ...thank you dear Ahmad.
I just hope you consider re-defining QL, it's getting more attention from the public media and some other online blog sites, not only for being informative, actually not at all for being informative, only for the opinions of the QLers.
Regards
Yalla!
Yalla!
A_Prodigy said
Ma3asalama :) ...Ma3asalama :)
Vulgarity is the conduct of other people, just as falsehoods are the truths of other people.
Formatted Soul said
Thanks ahmed...appreciate ...Thanks ahmed...appreciate it!
I love you..you love me...we are one big happy family:)
QL rocks!!
Ice Maiden said
Yes QL Rocks, as long as we ...Yes QL Rocks, as long as we don't "shake" ourselves to the ground.

Life is like a combination lock;
your job is to find the right numbers,
in the right order, so you can have anything you want.
Gica Contra said
PS: now with this huge ...PS: now with this huge publicity, I think that QL will get big buks from advertising...Can I buy some shares? :)
jpa said
Thanks and wishing the Qatar ...Thanks and wishing the Qatar Living many fruitfull years ahead.
Arien said
Thanks Ahmad. Few rotten ...Thanks Ahmad.
Few rotten oranges can rotten the whole boat load. We were all labelled racists by the Local community today. QL needs to be moderated better.
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Naseebfinder said
Thanks Ahmed ...Thanks Ahmed
astrogirl said
Thanks for the reminder... ...dont attack the person, only the comments itself...
professionalism is for everyone...
temper is something u cant get rid of... by loosing it...
temper is something u cant get rid of... by loosing it...
lobot said
thank you big brother..... ...stealth said
the question is for how long ...the question is for how long till the next round?
I am not a troll said
Good one Ahmad ! ..."To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita
"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita
sandeepkadian said
Thanks for the ...Thanks for the reminder.
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Phoenix_Rising said
"Of course, with over ..."Of course, with over 150,000 members and 500,000 people visiting each month,... "
whew!!
if i may qoute QL G/L No. 2,
"Do not create topics or posts that criticise, bully or insult other Qatar Living members, and do not flame (e.g. provoke other Qatar Living member into arguments) or impersonate other people. If you wish to make a complaint against another Qatar Living member, please use the "Report Abuse" form on the Contact page."
... users who find posting/s offensives must report it to admin. is there active reporting happening lately?
and how many Mods does QL have?
OR is the MODs proportion to current QLers traffic getting out of bounds?
if no one reports, and Mods are not enough to police the threads 24/7...
where will that leads?
i think, a never ending bashing and trashing here and there. imagine someone even opening a thread to bash this or that at a scheduled day!!
what does the Mods Say??
mjamille28 said
point well emphasized.. it's ...point well emphasized.. it's about time to bring QL back to the way it was..

bleu said
Suggestions? ...Ahmad,
I have a few suggestions... Shouldn't be too hard to implement with drupal/php/mysql.
Suggestion 1: Add a "report abuse" link to all posts (near "reply"), it should automatically link to the post, and poster...
Suggestion 2: Add an admin feature to put some users (all new users for the first week, and and abusive users) "under moderation"... They would think that what they typed was posted, but they're the only ones to see them until a mod approves the post.
Suggestion 3: Allow some of the users to be moderators. You know your users and you would know who to choose. They would still be transparent moderators as they shouldn't divulge their identity while moderating.
MAJID said
150,000 members ??? how much ...150,000 members ??? how much of them are using now ?
peace :)
peace :)
bleu said
MAJID, many are in read-only ...MAJID, many are in read-only mode, or only use the groups and classifieds.
Eco-savvy said
No 2. is good suggestion ...New ids should be monitored
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jpa said
Great suggestions bleu. If I ...Great suggestions bleu.
If I may add;
To avoid the "fly by night" members, which malicously participate in the discussion. The QL can add to their community guidelines that new users can only participate or post a topic after 48 hours of membership.
my_kris2ffer said
as i've seen lately point #2 ...as i've seen lately point #2 is not follow, i hope at this time QL members will be more aware with there post/forum.
DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY
DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY
superwoman said
thank u I wish some people ...thank u I wish some people appreciate and respect the rules
"Superwoman to the rescue"
"Superwoman to the rescue"
sadohaqatar said
i know it... ...i know it...
progression said
we will be more civil now. ...we will be more civil now. thank you for that reminder.
progress
progress
ashwindoke said
Thanks Ahmed...... Efforts ...Thanks Ahmed......
Efforts are appreciated .. . .
Till date I used to feel bad m not able to QL often these dayz...... but not anymore.....
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Helloqatar said
The question is? ...Will QL become a mouthpiece for the Country, or will it allow free and open discussions? We shall see, maybe QTEL will block it as not in the national interest.
my_kris2ffer said
everyone is doing mistake ...everyone is doing mistake and everyone deserve a second chance. and i believe QL deserve it and hopefully QTEL will not block the site.
DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY
DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY
t_coffee_or_me said
Ahmed ...Over the last few days it seems that instead of facilitating
is this a joke or are you blind
QL has been going down for the last 12 months.
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happygolucky said
Good to state the guidelines ...Good to state the guidelines and purpose of this website as a thread (2nd paragraph refers).
If the comments cannot be monitored by the MODS, which is quite understood, at least the post itself can be monitored and deleted if it does not fall under any of the above said criteria at once. While deleting just leave a comment for deleting so that the same may not get repeated, which will help reduce the work of the MODS over a period of time.
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Stone Cold said
Discuss the issue of the ...Discuss the issue of the day, not the persons problem!
Phoenix_Rising said
[qoute] "test..." [qoute/] ...[qoute]
"test..."
[qoute/]
sonaam said
Thanks Ahmed for reminder ...Thanks Ahmed for reminder
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PITSTOP said
Thanks ...Thanks
sander said
100% agree ...I agree 100% with the precautions Bleu mentioned...they ought to limit what has been going on for sometime...I almost quit QL because of all that at a certain point.
And in the corner of my mind....I celebrated glory
And in the corner of my mind....I celebrated glory
KellysHeroes said
I am afraid everybody knows ...I am afraid everybody knows the guidelines. The issue is about moderating the threads in general and the comments in particular. I know it is a huge effort, but by kicking out the members who ignore the guidlines will have everybody or most of the members abide by the guidelines.
Feel sorry for how things ended up. Looks like QL did reach a no-return point.
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Khanan said
Thanks for the reminder.. ...I hope it helps in settling down the dust..
Nice proposal Bleu.
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KellysHeroes said
In my opinion, the problem ...In my opinion, the problem is not coming from members side. Rather it is coming from the way this site is moderated. It has been noticed that double standards are applied. Some members are escaping with major and criticial violations. While others are kicked out for silly reasons.
The result of such biased moderations is the current reputation of QL.
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Stone Cold said
and we will be going into ...and we will be going into the next phase of smoother forum other than the lively & kicking past.
mr google said
Is this apology related with ...Is this apology related with this news in
global voices online
and iloveqatar
Better not to post than to post something that will insult other persons.
Better to watch your word now. They have made an anti-qatarliving group in facebook.
We must learn from this lesson.
t_coffee_or_me said
As KH said ...Its the mods and admin who need to learn this lesson.
Not us
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candlestick said
QL is great ...as long as it sticks to advising people who are moving here and living here.
I was told when I was advised to join, be aware of those that use it as platform for racial hatred.
flanostu said
trouble in paradise huh. it ...trouble in paradise huh.
it was actually a blessing in disguise if QTel actually withdrew those advertisements.
_noms_ said
Thanks Ahmad,, this was ...Thanks Ahmad,, this was needed.
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iwael said
Ahmed I do appreciate your ...Ahmed
I do appreciate your efforts and honesty.We are all here for the best of QL
I love Qatar and Qatarliving
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gadarene said
prevent multiple id's from ...prevent multiple id's from the same IP address,people use it ONLY to stir trouble & hijack threads,there is no other logical,reasonable use for it, i'm no IT expert so i don't know how these things work but surely there is a way to know what the IP address is & if multiple users are originating from the same IP add. right?...just a suggestion,good job guys...
p.l.u.r
UkEngQatar said
Ahmad. thanks for the Kind ...Ahmad. thanks for the Kind Reminder.
may I also say that please remember this is a wonderful site that helps a lot of people with information about Qatar. So The forums are just a part of this wonderful site.
So people please keep it real, clean and Respect to every one..
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DaRuDe said
gardarene ...simple solution.
you can change ip after disconnecting your conenction.
simple solution is ISP emails. only those should be eligible who got isp emails. and then same email cant be used for 2 ids.
Pajju said
Thanks Ahmed ...Thanks Ahmed
Oryx said
Ahmed ...Thanks Ahmed I think the blame lies with the crappy journalism. the overwhelming positives of QL are huge, charity, social groups, community info.
Maybe a need to start a new forum
'Rubbish Journalism'
Their written English is horrible and their reporting standards are slack.
Lesson 1
Opinion Vs Fact
Opinion - a view expressed by an individual
Fact - something that is proven
Quantify opinions which such adjectives as, minority, overwhelming etc to give perspective
Lesson 2
Using correct Syntax
ie accidents where two people are killed are not 'unfortunate mishaps'
Lesson 3
here is a link to an online dictionary for journalists in Qatar - esp the Tribune
http://dictionary.ca...
fuw said
Abuse ...Qatar Living has become an institution in Qatar. All the people I know who come here to work soon learn about it, and in the 4 years I've been here I've used it to find information, try out restaurants, buy a phone and sell a couple of cars. The problem with a lot of people these days is that they see free sites like this on the internet as having no value - because they don't pay to use them - and so feel it's OK to abuse any rules set by the organisers. We, the users, have an equal responsibility to police the sites that we use and wouldn't want to see disappear, in the same way we have a right and responsibility to protect the neighbourhoods we live in. It's up to us as much as the moderators to identify abuse and do something about it. If we don't then we can say goodbye to all the good things that QL provides the Qatar community.
king007 said
PM does it again! This is ...PM does it again!
This is just another one, many members have left QL because of few of the members who have not been moderated and allowed to spread hatred against Qataris and sometimes even against the state religion.
Either Admins/Moderators should moderate QL properly and keep track of its members to behave, respect and discuss constructively about Qatar, or shut the site down if they can't do it.
fRanCisM said
noted ...noted
...

bleu said
king007, I don't blame the ...king007,
I don't blame the moderators either, they could be just 1-2 people who have other things to do in their life.
We as QL users need to be more active in defusing all the hate.
algadomain said
noted ahmad and thanks! ...noted ahmad and thanks!
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suzan said
Thanks ahmad! I was talking ...Thanks ahmad!
I was talking about this the other time.! it would be great to have the old QL back :)
Eco-savvy said
FYA This id "sun26872" got banned several times ...yesterday she came up with new id as Candlestick
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legal_pad said
Good points but others have ...Good points but others have no sense at all.
Example of them:
A-The purchase of a dictionary on line? Come on give me a break!
Solution:
It should be already be embedded on the comment page as a tool for others to use.
B-Bleu said: We as QL users need to be more active in defusing all the hate.
You don't paid me enough to be so active.
Suggestion: read all 18 Guidelines!
ahmad SAID:
we rely on you to flag community violations.
Now everyone is a judge, a prosecutor and a lawyer.
You are just opening the gates of the new QL inquisition!
Suggestion: read all 18 Guidelines!
Respectfully.
President Manuel Quezon said once:
I WOULD RATHER SEE THE PHILIPPINES RUN LIKE HELL, BY THE FILIPINOS, RATHER THAN THE AMERICANS RUN IT LIKE HEAVEN"
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sun26872 said
Ecosavvy yoou are welcome to ...Ecosavvy yoou are welcome to my mental hospital....we are experts of electroconvulsive treatment.
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
Qatar Idols said
how i wish more learned, reminded and practiced... ...need no of moderators. we're all professional here, we're all matured enough to know our rights, limitations and responsibilities...
good luck to all and more of good lucks to QL ahead!
Total Recovery. Result = New life, new image, new belief...
Total Recovery. Result = New life, new image, new belief...
Victory_278692 said
Reminders, Point noted and ...Thanks Ahmad!
king007 said
I agree Bleu that its not ...I agree Bleu that its not moderators/admins fault "entirely" but there has been lot of reporting done but its ignored for a particular group of members for unknown reasons by the admins/mods.
More Moderators is the need of QL, also Admins can consider moving QL to a more userfriendly forums like IP Board or VBulletin that has more features.
KellysHeroes said
Double Standards ...I understand that PM's famous thread is deleted. I am not sure if the mods deleted her or she asked to be removed.
But when I see a thread whose title is "Shameful Qatari tradition.....", I do not understand how such a thread is still alive and kicking. Personally I find it a call to destroy the society, dis-obey the parents, and most important violating the religion.
Well done mods.
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legal_pad said
ahmad ...I got a question?
Why you guys still holding moderators that are not any longer living in Qatar?
Is best to find volunteers who already lives and works in Qatar.
President Manuel Quezon said once:
I WOULD RATHER SEE THE PHILIPPINES RUN LIKE HELL, BY THE FILIPINOS, RATHER THAN THE AMERICANS RUN IT LIKE HEAVEN"
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning
LupiN said
thanks for the reminder ...maasalam
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my_kris2ffer said
the changes must start from ...the changes must start from us/members of QL coz even we didnt do anything we're still part of crimes that happen here as a member. even the MOD is monitoring every forums/thread yet if some pathetic member are still posting it will not end. we need to be more aware in what we are posting, the control is in our hand, the changes is in our hand as well. Let's try to learn from the mistake happened and make the QL a happy social community system.
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DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY
The rock said
Thanks Ahmed, Efforts ...Thanks Ahmed,
Efforts appreciated.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
ummjake said
I wonder if the girl who started the anti-QL Facebook page ...(link found in Mr. Google's post above) notices the irony that in demanding the closure of QL because some expatriates have insulted and stereotyped Qataris in their posts, she is insulting and stereotyping ALL of us as being of the same mind as those few errant individuals.
She writes:
"Many of the expatriates on this website (not all of them but most of them) use bad language when talking about Qatari people."
"Most of them"? Really?
Hmmm...if QL has 150,000 members...
Pot. Kettle. Black.
But I digress...
Great suggestions by bleu above.
Everyone should try to behave more responsibly and politely on here...and don't let other people push your buttons, folks.
You can't control other people's actions, words or feelings but you can control your own.
"If you're looking for sympathy, you'll find it between sh*t and syphilis in the dictionary."
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-- Dorothy Parker
verisimilitude said
good advise by ummjake... ..."don't let other people push your buttons, folks"
bleu said
ver, what if they push my ...ver,
what if they push my buttons???
:P
verisimilitude said
bleu... do what britexpat said... ..."Lie back and think of England"
bleu said
I'll do just that... ...I'll do just that... England!
Nah!
I'll just lie back and think of Qatar!
A_Prodigy said
This website needs a ...This website needs a moderator that is online 24/7 or at least 2 that alternate, maybe the members should nominate someone that is a positive contributor and that can remain somewhat neutral at all times.
A lot of members misbehave and so the suggestion that we as adults should be able to 'moderate' our posts is thrown out of the window.
There are a lot of blatant negative posts all over the place, I was reading the guide to Qatari weddings and I found a lot of offensive remarks that make me wonder whether the moderators are overlooking them or simply failed to keep up with all the rubbish that is being posted.
Vulgarity is the conduct of other people, just as falsehoods are the truths of other people.
FriedUnicorn said
Ahmad is world famous in Qatar now. ...Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
'I Agree!...Next'
verisimilitude said
No Bleu... ...that doesn't work... Superwoman's friend tried to lie back and think of Doha and it was a disaster... you HAVE to think of England...
check out page 2 of this thread...
http://www.qatarlivi...
Boston said
"World famous in Qatar" is a ..."World famous in Qatar" is a contradiction in itself.
verisimilitude said
No Boston... ...I am world famous in the room that I am in right now...
FriedUnicorn said
That was suppossed to be a joke Boston. ...Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
'I Agree!...Next'
Boston said
I had my laugh, FU. ...I had my laugh, FU.
somwerNdmiddle said
LOL! ...LOL!
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bleu said
veri, "England" works... ...veri, "Lie back and think of England" works...
heero_yuy2 said
Dang! PM is gone ...Her posts makes sense. It didn't come up to the point that the majority of those who 'felt' offended and probably imbecile, because PM may be logically true, has won the day?
One controversial thread doesn't make up to the valid points she makes in almost all of her comments.
So we always have to make up for the major illogical people that 'sweeps' this website and give the QL guidelines or abuse form as a 'viable' reason to oust someone that has a voice to show the other reality of Qatar what plenty of us cannot speak out of fear of being kicked out in this country?
And you call yourselves 'being respected' when one's opinion of an eye-opener may probably prove (through your replies) that you easily think she 'generalizes' people? Your replies only makes it obvious that she was right...unless you know how you can tolerate or counteract intelligently (I admire Bleu on this one), and that makes one nice good apple among 10-15 other bad apples. (Ok that last phrase was mine. I hadn't eaten lunch yet. ;-P)
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roseesocta@yahoo.com said
Thank you qatar living and ...Thank you qatar living and merry x-mas to everyone..