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‘Non-specialist’ jobs at ministries only for Qataris By Anwar Elshamy
By Ajnas on Sun, 23/03/2008 - 7:39am
ALL the expatriate employees working in “non-specialist” jobs at ministries and public departments will be replaced by Qataris by the end of March next year, as Qatarisation of these jobs would be obligatory, HE the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs Sultan Hasan al-Dhabit al-Dousari said yesterday. (source : Gulf Times
“We have given a grace period for all government departments employing non-Qataris in non-specialist jobs. It ends on March 31, 2009,” said al-Dousari, in an interview with the monthly programme Lakom Al Qarar, broadcast by Qatar TV yesterday.
“These jobs have to be occupied by Qataris,” the minister stressed.
“We have already created a data bank of some 4,500 Qatari job-seekers. This replacement plan which is supported by the cabinet would create some 3,000 vacancies for unemployed Qataris.”
Al-Dousari said that his ministry would reject any recruitment request whether by a government department or private company as long as there was a Qatari who could do that job.
“Qatarisation of jobs is a top priority for the ministry. We have a mission to increase the participation of the Qataris in the workforce. It is now less than 10%. This is unacceptable.”
The minister said that his ministry had signed a deal with the College of North Atlantic to study the requirements of the labour market.
“A new manpower department is established as part of the ministry to provide training to Qataris and find them jobs both at the public and private sectors.”
About the private sector, he stressed that his ministry would pressurise the firms to allocate 20% of their jobs to Qataris.
“So far only a few companies have met the target set by the government. But we have recently started negotiations with the banking sector and the companies listed on the DSM (Doha Securities Market). We also included the hotel industry in a list of sectors that has to employ Qataris,” he said.
Asked about the Qatar Airways’ stance on Qatarisation, he said the airline “has failed to provide 20% of jobs” available with the national carrier to Qataris.
“We have made a decision to implement the Qatarisation scheme. Qatar Airways is among the companies the ministry is targeting. We have already sent a letter on this topic to the airline. It is now a must for both the public and private sectors to meet the target of Qatarisation. It is a top priority of the ministry.”
To a question, he admitted that there were many Qataris who were employed in the government departments but doing no work at all.
“There are many Qataris on the payroll of government departments. They enjoy all the privileges and allowances without doing any type of work. When I joined the Ministry of Civil Service Affairs and Housing (now defunct) in 2004, I found that there were more than 700 Qatari employees who were excess employment. It was a policy and a system at that time. But now the situation is different,” he said.
To a question on the Labour Law, the minister revealed that Qatar was considering amending the law to comply with the international and local developments.
“We will receive a team of experts from the World Labour Organisation this month to review the labour laws. In the amended law, the labour committees would be activated and Qatarisation would be given a boost.”
He criticised the recently held Qatar Career Fair, saying that some participating firms had furnished “exaggerated figures” of jobs they have provided for Qataris.
“We noticed there was a lack of co-ordination between the ministry and the organisers and we will take care of this in next year’s exhibition,” he added.
At the end of the episode, a majority of 82% of the audience voted against the motion, “Are you satisfied about Qatar’s labour policy and employment scenario?”
Source::Gulf-Times
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Afaque said
thanks for the info! ...thanks for the info!
canarybird said
Redline404 - this is ...This is their right to employ their own nationals, big question here is if they can find enough nationals interested in the jobs they are offering for the pay they are offering. So no need ot worry until this actually sets in.
tallg said
Sounds like some Qataris ...Sounds like some Qataris have the ultimate job!!!
smoke said
i wonder why my country ...i wonder why my country doesnt do this too? make me sit on my fat arse and pay me for doing no work! And canary do you think they wouldnt offer Qatari's a better salary package for the same job an expat is doing? Kinda makes u wonder who's gonna profit from Qatarisation...Qatari's or the Govt? Hiring people who will work for half the salary or hiring people who will do the same job and get paid more?
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canarybird said
smoke- if you were at home ...You see this is Qatari territory and they have the right to be emloyed first if they have the necessary qualifications, or do you think a Manager who is worlking his butt off wants to have personell there who are not pulling weight.
They have a right, and should work in their own country, they should be able to provide for their future families, especially the younger generation needs this kind of thing.
It is unfair to ask about what the salaries will be, but in the end do you think they will pay for people who are not productive, the government is not sleeping and many Qataris who are working for the government don't have a lot of free time.
RED_POPE said
Smoke ...Don't worry Smoke, Why are you using your company resources and bandwidth while browsing the internet?
Is it because , You are a cat that is blonde and Bimbo with curly hair?
"Every once in a while, declare peace -- it confuses the hell out of your enemies." - Quark quotes a Rule of Acquisition, "The Homecoming"
charansoi11r said
The Gov. departments will be ...The Gov. departments will be very efficient after Qatarization. Good Luck to all lazy expatriates. Qatar doesn't need you. Hold on Is cleaning a specialist job?
swissgirl39 said
yes canary,that was also in my mind ...it is Qatar and they have to look first for their own peoples.
i find it good that way.
RED_POPE said
Hold on Charansoi ...In the traffic department of the old Parachute round inside there is a lady who types all the paper work for your car registration in one of the rooms in the back, she uses one of those Olivetti's type writers from the 1960's, ribbon type. She is very proficient in typing and fast, but what got me was the darn type writer is so old and why not a PC or a more updated type writer.
"Every once in a while, declare peace -- it confuses the hell out of your enemies." - Quark quotes a Rule of Acquisition, "The Homecoming"
skdkak said
Hi arsehole Charan. do u ...Hi [please stop swearing or you will be banned] Charan. do u ever chk ur PM on time
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swissgirl39 said
charan that coment above is very sarcastic ...are you ok today?
charansoi11r said
Swissgirl - what is the ...Swissgirl - what is the meaning of "scarstic". too big word for my understanding :)
RED_POPE said
Swissgirl and charansoil ..."Every once in a while, declare peace -- it confuses the hell out of your enemies." - Quark quotes a Rule of Acquisition, "The Homecoming"
Sadiq said
it will be ... ...just like Saudization where there is a Filipino actually doing the work and two people are paid for one position or like in America where you must hire minorities in order to qualify for tax breaks so once again the employer must hire more people than needed to get the job done. There are numerous "woman owned companies" that get to bid higher than the other bidders and still win and they don't have a clue what business they are actually in it is strictly in their name just to get the classification. If there was "equality" there would be nowhere on the application asking what your ethnicity, religion, age or sex was.
There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal.
swissgirl39 said
lol Red Pope ...ok,i got it
by the way
HAPPY EASTER TO YOU
:-D
charansoi11r said
skdkak - My PM box is full ...skdkak - My PM box is full these days. I am receiving countless invitations for friendship, coffee evening and nights etc. etc.
BTW I replied to your PM already :)
skdkak said
charan: u sure did but what ...charan: u sure did but what u are imagening is a dream. u realy really need to know Ratan Tata very well to get those kind of figures.
suggession: y dont u freking delete ur previous mails in ur inbox to enjoy more in rebacca's lap.
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wmhizon said
this is not bad.. they ...this is not bad.. they really should teach & trained their own people to work...
Its also unfair for the expatriates who doing all those jobs for them & getting less than what they should get...
I just hope that this news is true & will be implemented soon...
"Even if LOVE is full of thorns, embrace it. For in between those thorns there is a ROSE that's worth all the PAIN."
charansoi11r said
skdkak - shall I invite ...skdkak - shall I invite Rebecca to tour Taj Mahal with me in a new Tata Nano :)
Sadiq said
Even if LOVE is full of thorns, embrace it. For in between thos ...Have you ever actually hugged a rose bush? When you decide to call me I want to watch and see how much it is worth.
It's better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt Abraham Lincoln
skdkak said
u can go screw her up ...u can go screw her up anyplace and i care a hoot if u go in a bullock cart . LOL
ther is a msng in ur PM
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smoke said
Canary i never said they ...Canary i never said they dont have the right to be employed FIRST by all means let them do so? Theres plenty of sweepers jobs, drivers jobs, labours job..why dont they start there? or is it that they want a nice cozy office job only? Perhaps the Karwa taxi drivers should all be Qataris coz they should know their way around town better? and as far as this topic goes... i think they are being well provided for by the govt.
Now tell me canarybird would a Qatari work in the above mentioned positions? even for triple the pay an expat is getting? Its very easy to come here and give talks about how Qatari have the right to this and that...so what? lets not forget we didnt come here and take their jobs...they are the ones that hired us in the first place to do their jobs..whats the harm...we get paid for our work. Oh and about the salaries and the govt not paying for non productive people i think that whole “There are many Qataris on the payroll of government departments. They enjoy all the privileges and allowances without doing any type of work."
Red pope u can ask everyone the same question...what the heck are u doing online dont u have some confessions to make?
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RED_POPE said
Smoke ..."Every once in a while, declare peace -- it confuses the hell out of your enemies." - Quark quotes a Rule of Acquisition, "The Homecoming"
smoke said
woohoo i can sin all day ...woohoo i can sin all day today! Happy Easter :)
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syamsat said
Saudi adapted this in 2003. ...Saudi adapted this in 2003. Every year 5% of expat jobs has to be filled with locals.
Kikomodos said
What are "Non-Specialist Jobs" Anyway? ...By the way, what are "non-specialist jobs" anyway? They did not specified those on the published article. Any idea guys?
smoke said
and i was just about to ...and i was just about to post that very same question...what are these non specialist jobs?
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charansoi11r said
Cleaner, Tea boy, Driver, ...Cleaner, Tea boy, Driver, Mechanic, house maid etc. etc. are some the non-specialist jobs
smoke said
phew so my job as a ...phew so my job as a janitor is safe :) woohooo!!
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charansoi11r said
Mine is Tea Boy. so I am in ...Mine is Tea Boy. so I am in the safe side here ;)
smoke said
no ur not..u just said Tea ...no ur not..u just said Tea boy is a non specialist job? u better start looking out for another job.
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charansoi11r said
Yes I am looking for a sales ...Yes I am looking for a sales boy job. I think skdkak can help me with this respect :)
SPEED said
Kiko.. ...Non Specialist jobs are Administration/ HR/ Secretry/ Receptionist/ Customer Services etc..
People in such jobs will be targeted specially at the time of Renewal of RP.
I have already kept my bags ready
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syamsat said
From now on we can find the ...From now on we can find the jobs are advertised as 'Customer care specialist', 'Letter Dispatch Expert' and will be filled by experts.. ;-)
globalmerchant said
charan ..."Make a difference or make way"
sales boy job? what products do u have under ur belt??
wmhizon said
where are they going ...where are they going to throw those non-specialist staff they have now next year???
Are they going to be transfer those staff to another company? or just send them home???
"Even if LOVE is full of thorns, embrace it. For in between those thorns there is a ROSE that's worth all the PAIN."
dweller said
It really ...depends on how you classify "specialist jobs".
I know of clerical and other non-technical jobs that are classed as "specialist".
rzdoha_qa said
All the managerial ...All the managerial position must be non specialist Job
canarybird said
smoke - you got yourself ...See they are not talking about menial labour jobs, so don't put that on here, they are talking about administrative and managerial positions and they are already doing this here in my office. Any contracts that run out or the person is not doing their job they are removed to another department doing another job and being replaced by Qataris.
Even if there are Qataries enjoying benfits etc. what is the point of getting upset about it - it is not your nor my business.
I know a great many Western expatriates working here who are picking up QR 60,000.00 plus plus plus at the end of the month, and are doing next to nothing for that money.
Then don't preach to me about all the labour jobs not being occupied by Qataries, in many Western countries these jobs are not being done by locals but either they hire Indians, Pakistanis, Turkish etc. to do those jobs. Many have to be on rock bottom before they would think about such a job.
skdkak said
Hey Speed. how u doing. any ...Hey Speed. how u doing. any progress abt the CV i sent u ??????
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swissgirl39 said
canarybird i agree 100% with you ...i think its in every country the same.there are some jobs locals dont want to do and they hire expatriats for them.
here i want to say *THANK YOU* for all those expatriats doing this jobs in Swiss.Without you many things would not work as perfect as they do.
Expatriats are important for every country.
:-D
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
(Antoine de Saint-Exupery)
SPEED said
skdkak... ...Yep .... already forwarded to concern dept .... I will chk the status today ! good that you have reminded me
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skdkak said
thanks 4 that. never ...thanks 4 that. never thought u are so bhullakad (forgetful for the rest of qLERS)
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charansoi11r said
skdkak - so now I can apply ...skdkak - so now I can apply for the post vacated by you :)
smoke said
yes but why only the Non ...yes but why only the Non Specialist jobs...forget the labour jobs then..how about Engineers? Why are they hiring so many outside technical workforce? i'm sure the Qataris are smart enough to hold such positions as well?
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skdkak said
charan.. i am not leaving ...charan.. i am not leaving my sponsor so easily man.
cv is of some1 else.
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skdkak said
smoke . do u want to ...smoke . do u want to atleast sleep in peace.
these engineers will make a house of cards.
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smoke said
Skdkak..he who makes his ...Skdkak..he who makes his bed must sleep in it too right?
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rzdoha_qa said
canarybirdand swissgirl39 ...Don’t compare Qatar with western or any other country there situation is entirely different.They are not doing lower grade job is fine : but they are not able to handle other jobs also like technical and professional jobs though this is not the case in Europe they are capable do all and doing many of them.
skdkak said
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swissgirl39 said
rzdoha ...here in swiss for example we have many expatriats working in the medical field.
but they are working in any sector and i can say once again without them life would be not that easy like it is now.
:-D
rzdoha_qa said
This is not Qatarisation but ...This is not Qatarisation but an insult of expat employee if they really want to promote Qatari's for the job there are many way without replacement.Stop recruiting new staff (expat) right from today don’t wait for 2009 you don't issue visa.
But this is not a fare policy you keep recruiting onside and replacing another side.
Kikomodos said
Notice the "SureUp Cream"??? ...Guys, did you notice that SureUp Cream ad on this thread? Oooff!
capricorian313 said
Good inititative! ...A very good initiative by Qatari Authorties but point is that they must aslo improve the motivation level of Qataris so that they can to perform work equally good.
They must also do justice by holding Qataris equally responsible incase they dont perform their task diligently, prudently or accordingly.
In long run Qatari would face difficulty as giving leniency to Qatari will directly effect them and might develop a habit of doing less work.
Live and let live...
canarybird said
smoke- probably ...Probably they will use new graduates in the future - I don't know but fact is that Qataris will need to work for their future they are building their country ex-pats will come and go but they will stay. What is 4,700 jobs compared to the amount of people they will need. A drop in the ocean.
rzdoha_qa said
swissgirl39 ...To abolish a system or set up will definitely makes matter big or small depends on planning.But here in Qatar many times in many dept. they cleaned up expat and after some times again they started hiring expatriates. I mean this is not a short of game which they are playing with some ones livelihood?
charansoi11r said
Swissgirl - any job for me ...Swissgirl - any job for me in Swiss land :)
swissgirl39 said
lol charan,i thought you are happy there in Doha ...and remember...no Rebecca in Switzerland.
;-D
rzdoha_qa said
Tell me any single ...Tell me any single organization run by 100% of Qatari no matters 90% only?If you want to make some experiment take one organization if successful go ahead if not at least messed up one only.
smoke said
hmm imagine em hiring ...hmm imagine em hiring Qataris to pilot the Qatar Airways crafts...one leg on top, cell phone in the hand and hell knows where we'll land. lol
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skdkak said
smokey. y are u forgetting ...smokey. y are u forgetting Pearl is made for this situation dude.
how poor are u in remembering
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charansoi11r said
My job here pay very poorly. ...My job here pay very poorly. I want a good paid job. Rebecca will surely follow me to swiss with me. I even can deposit that money in a swiss bank:)
swissgirl39 said
good plans charan ;-D ...you and rebecca enjoying lifes in Swiss.
loooooooooooooooooool
ok so come then.
:-D
skdkak said
charan. come back to qatar. ...charan. come back to qatar. u need a lime juice to get over with hang over.
there is no rebecca. u are in debt to bank.
u can max. think of Dubai.. swiss is toooooooooo far away.
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underdog said
plz ...they said 4600 unemployed, how many of em are employable
smoke said
the Pearl is made for what? ...the Pearl is made for what? crash landing? heck if there are Qatari pilots they might go and start blinking their lights to the aircraft in front of them rofl! this is so funny.
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skdkak said
wink wink. how dare u dive ...wink wink. how dare u dive first. I am a qatari pilot. i do piloting even in SUV.. remember, i am in aircraft. by the time their discussion gets over.. u see an extra hole in pearl with new lake with a small island (nose of the craft)
Hummers_rock said
"In western countries these ..."In western countries these jobs are not being done by locals but either
"
they hire Indians, Pakistanis, Turkish etc. to do those jobs. Many
have to be on rock bottom before they would think about such a job.
In the west they do hire Indians, Pakistanis etc. to do those jobs...BUT you also see locals doing those jobs as well, and no they are not all on "rock bottom." In the west you also see Indians, Pakistanis in top managerial roles, something you do see much here....The main difference is they have workers rights and they get paid more then 600 QR, which is how it should be.
I was raised in a upper class neighbourhood - when I turned 16 (like most of my friends) I did the most s*** job - to be taught responsibility and the value/meaning of money...... You don't see that here.
'Our freedom is but a light that breaks through from another world'
genesis said
This only applies to the ...This only applies to the bulk ministries following the ministry of labour as ministry of education, finance, interior & others. Government corporations like Ashgal, Kahramaa or Qtel has their own HR which follows their own regulation for qatarisation.
charansoi11r said
skdkak - I am getting a lot ...skdkak - I am getting a lot of invitation for coffee meetings these days :)
jack_so said
Good ...I think the step is good NO DOUBT IN IT ... But I feel little bit confuse when i ask to qatari regarding Qatarization ... Their first sentence is "why not ??? We are qatari we have the first right to get JOB " Yes i agree with all what they are saying BUT in every country there are some criterias to fill for a position especially in managerial or Clerical Level Jobs ... In India,Bangladesh , Pakistan , Egypt , USA ETC for a small government Post you have to struggle a lot even if you are national .... They have lot of tests interviews just to select a junior Clerk ..... I personally agree that the first chance should be given to Qataris but if they are qualified ... There is a quote "Half-Doctor is Dangerous for Patient"...
genesis said
And yes ...prefer to see Qataris (both women & men) in places like passport control & ministries customer services.
smoke said
Thats exactly the point i ...Thats exactly the point i was trying to make...why shouldnt Qataris be made to do ANY kind of job..and not only the easy tasks of sitting around all day checking out the stock exchange. if this is YOUR country then clean up your own mess dont hire people to do that. Do your own house work for that matter why u want maids? hire local Qataris to take care of ur kids.
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charansoi11r said
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smoke said
wtf u tea boy!! who is ...wtf u tea boy!! who is giving u such expensive gifts?? and what are u doing posting it here?
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canarybird said
Hummers_rock - you ...You interpreted that yourself, I know many Indians and other Asian nations who have built up industries in the West. Read properly and this was not aimed to insult any nations - seems you have a chip on your shoulder. You take any street cleaning or menial work in Germany mostly Turkish are doing this although many Turkish have flourishing business.
It just mean that many countries there are locals who will not to this kind of job. Nothing more and nothing less and to be quite honest when I was young I have done many dirty jobs jobs myself to just earn some money it did not damage my self esteem.
jauntie said
That reminds me of a guy we knew in the UK ...Charan's post, I mean.
This guy had 'done time' for being the getaway driver in a robbery.
He opened a second-hand furniture shop in our town and advertised that he did House Clearances.
We often wondered if the home owners were at home when he cleared their houses!
charansoi11r said
Smoking boy- it was posted ...Smoking boy- it was posted by QL memeber to sell her excess to clear her wardrobe for next summer. I thought you highly paid guys want to buy that kind at a bargain price :)
Hummers_rock said
I disagree with you.....you ...I disagree with you.....you do see many locals in the west cleaning and doing menial work!!
Errrr.....just because you don't like what I have written don't accuse me of 'having a chip on my shoulder.' You know nothing about me...why do you take it upon yourself to insult people who don't agree with you? You seem to have a habit of doing this....hmmmm
'Our freedom is but a light that breaks through from another world'
rami-leb said
What bollocks ...The government wants to employ all the unemployable Qataris.
These are the same Qataris that don't want to start at the bottom, like expatriates do, and work their way up. They want to spend 3 years at university and then get a government job as a manager or a section head.
These are the same people that think that photocopying is beneath them, and who call the tea boy to move boxes around the office.
I work in a government dept, and if we're like any other government depts, the place will fall down if the ex-pats leave. I hate to generalize, but let's be realistic - where I am, maby 60% of the qataris got a job to pass the time. They do nothing, come to work at 9am, leave at 1pm, and usually are absent 1-3 days per week. The expatriates are the ones that are left to do the work.
Meanwhile the government is telling Qatar Airways to hire more Qataris, yet at the same time the government bans Qatari nationals from working as cabin crew, because it would be 'demeaning' for a Qatari to have such a position.
I'm all for Qatarization, but if you are a Qatari and you want a job, you have to be willing to work for it.
Khanan said
the news... ...i work in one of the government authorities/corporation and the news had already created havoc in the office as more than 50% of the admin/HR/non-tech staff are non-qataris.....
skdkak said
charan. y do u keep telling ...charan. y do u keep telling me repeatedly again & again about ur coffee invitations.
Remember Rebecca. she sent me 3 mails today and god knows how many before that along with 17.8 Million British pounds. u enjoy ur coffee and i'm content with her and the money.
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charansoi11r said
Khanan - Your corporation is ...Khanan - Your corporation is in a mess as it is now. just can not imagine the situation after Qatarixation :(
charansoi11r said
sdkkak - She stopped her ...sdkkak - She stopped her e-mails to me. May be she doesn't like a lebi releationship :)
Khanan said
loool !!! ...Charan!
i will not comment any more.....
skdkak said
hehehehehehehehehe. u ...hehehehehehehehehe. u lesbi.
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Xena said
I agree with Hummers on this.... ...Take a look at the states.. you see americans doing menial work like driving garbage trucks, waiting tables, cleaning offices.
Back home, I got a part-ti