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MF Husain conferred Qatar nationality!

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India's most celebrated artist MF Husain has been offered Qatar nationality, according to a report in The Hindu.

The report said that Husain was “Honoured by Qatar nationality” but deeply saddened by his enforced exile and the need now to give up the citizenship of the land of his birth, which he has lovingly and secularly celebrated in his art covering a period of over seven decades.

Indian government does not allow dual citizenship, therefore, Husain will have to give up his Indian passport if he decides to take up Qatar citizenship.

The report also said that Husain did not apply for Qatar nationality and that it was conferred upon him at the instance of the modernising emirate’s ruling family.

The artist has been living in Dubai since the hate campaign against him started in India in 2006.

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Source: http://www.hindustan...

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LandCruiser_Qatar said Very talented person and ...

Very talented person and crapy countrymen running hate campaign. Hats of to MF Hussain.

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Thoufy said is this democracy....?????? ...

is this democracy....?????? is this democracy....?????? Very Shame to our country...

 

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Khanan said very sad! ...

a great artist is living in self-exile coz of some fanatics!
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svelte_saggi said he played with religious ...

he played with religious sentiments.he got slammed.i wonder why people go ahead and do something when they know what they will be met with.like they say,better be safe than sorry.he really didn't have to go through this ordeal at 95 years of age.

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Nic said I can’t believe ...

I can’t believe this!
India being a modern democracy expels an internationally recognized artist to a country governed by a dictatorship!
O_o

 

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FriedUnicorn said The 'hate campaign' was justified ...

MF Husain might be a great painter but lacks socio-religious sensitivity and is pathetic at respecting others. He can be compared to the painter who painted a cartoon. He must leave India asap for his own good. Yes, Qatar would be ideal for his retirement.

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Nic said FU, Art is art, there should ...

FU,
Art is art, there should be no boundaries to it otherwise it can't be called art!
Do you mean that Qatar is less radical than India?!

 

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lawa said he deserve it ...

well a man of art

 

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FriedUnicorn said No Nic...he had painted nude pictures of ...

Hindu Gods and Godesses ( Which I have seen too )and it is disgusting to say the least. People like him bring trouble to whichever country they live in by the lack of respect for others. I used to revere him at one point during my school and college years but after he did what he did,I look at him as a dangerous person who belongs behind bars.

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khemcho said Nic - i do agree art is an ...

Nic - i do agree art is an art.. however why he wants to corner one particular religion ? that is the point...

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FriedUnicorn said Nic...he could be given a citizenship at Timbaktu ...

for all I care.

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Arien said I agree with you FU. He may ...

I agree with you FU. He may be a good artist.. But not a good countrymen.

India doesnt need you. we need celebrities who can strengthen the relationships among its people, make it united thus make it stronger.

Not the pathetic souls like you who part them!!!

I started to hate him when he started goin after Madhuri dixit, flirting.. painting her picture in wet sarees , at the age of 80.lol..
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svelte_saggi said anytime that religion has ...

anytime that religion has been represented as art in a derogatory manner,it has ended in chaos.

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FriedUnicorn said Thanks Arien...Being a Great comes with a responsibility ...

...and he has failed miserably. He should have realised that a major portion of his die hard fans were Hindus and knowing the fact that its highly controversial to insult someone's religion;he should have refrained from it. His going after different bollywood babes was a huge embarassement too.

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Oryx said confused ...

So in India is 'freedom of expression' not allowed?
sorry i dont know who he is and FU he can't get citizenship for timbuktoo because it is a town in the country of Mali
I wonder if he would like a Malian passport?

 

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painther said NIC, I think you are ...

NIC, I think you are unnecessary poking your nose here in Indian group discussion (as you do everywhere, as if you are champion of democracy and started "teaching" it to Indians),
First, India did not expel it as you said; he left because of anger from a section of society because that section thinks this painter (who use to print film posters earlier) offended them, Simple. he's living in Dubai peacefully and since Qatar is another champion of certain issues, conferred citizenship to him (it's only offered).
MF can anytime go back to India and live there. but as a minimum he can do is to say sorry for hurting centiments of section of society.
Art is art and should not become fart..lol

 

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Aunty virus said Qatar might have bought him ...

Qatar might have bought him for getting some free pictures for Islamic Museum..:)Its a better deal for Qatar Govt!

 

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FriedUnicorn said Oryx 'freedom of expression' has ...

found it's meaning in India. You have to look at the greatness of this nation to understand what true secularism and freedom of speech and expression is. I didnot use Timbaktu geographically. It was more of a figure of speech.

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s_isale said What about those image in ...

What about those image in Ellora and Ajanta?
I suppose thats acceptable!!
What MF has done is bad.

 

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FriedUnicorn said s-isale ...

Have you been to Ajanta and Ellorra?

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Nic said Take the example of this ...

Take the example of this Playboy cover, showing an image representing Mary, the Mother of Jesus, published in Spain:

It is obviously a provocative and even offensive picture for many Catholics, and I am sure many condemned it. But does that mean the magazine was closed, or the author was expelt from Spain? No, because its art and art is interpreted differently from individual to individual, independently the creator’s intentions.
In a free, diverse and tolerant world, art is what it is and it should never be conditioned or used as a weapon!

Was I wrong in assuming that India was a diverse and tolerant society?
Art is art.
Even in China, a dictatorship, Mao tse Tsung is painted and portrayed in ridiculous and obscene postures.

Art cannot be condemned, it can be criticized but not censored. One may not like, one may feel offended by it, but that is art, unique creations by unique individuals.

Even if the artist had bad intentions, its still art. He could have been criticized by those who felt offended but removing him of his citizenship it’s quite a radical measure. This would never ever happen in the West, no matter how provocative the piece of art may be seen by some.

I was wrong about India; they are obviously not there yet!
I respect, it’s their entire right, I do not agree though!

 

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painther said Ajanta & Ellora & Khajuraho ...

Ajanta & Ellora & Khajuraho whatever....if someone take shield of heritage of culture of thousands of years (funnily, History provided everyone some refuge-good bad ugly whtever u want to seek !!)..and hurt, intentionally, someone's centiments; it must be condemned, by ALL genuine souls (except cheap hate mongers).
Here issue is not whether those centiments are good or bad, issue is some1 is hurting them and remains unapologetic!!

 

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Formatted Soul said Nic maybe its accepted in ...

Nic maybe its accepted in your culture, but definitely not in Indian culture.
I think India is better without people like him! as AV said for Qatar it should be a business deal.
Would Qatar give citizenship to that Danish cartoonist?

 

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svelte_saggi said anybody remembers what ...

anybody remembers what happened to the cartoons from denmark?this is like similar story,from my point of view.religious and political criticism are touchy issues.and mixing art with either of these two will only invite trouble.

just an opinion.that's all.

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s_isale said Whether a person is famous ...

Whether a person is famous or not there is a limit in each society. Once you cross the limit you should be ready to face the music.
Mocking/Hurting others religious beliefs is a one way ticket to trouble.

 

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painther said NIC, Again a few incorrect ...

NIC,
Again a few incorrect informations you have.
One, MF is not expelled as you are claiming,
Two, India is diverse, I can give you hundreds of examples stating it.
Three, ur statement that "they are obviously not there yet" is irrelative here cose India's democracy or system or culture need not to copy to any1 else or intend to reach any destination.
East is east & west is west, if west claims teahing a few lessons, east can also teach ;em many lessons...!

I agree, primarily, with you that art is art and remain so ....U must agree that I know India more than you, sure and trust me there are MANY such creatures in india who express ROUTINLY against Indian ethos in terms of art. expressions/ demonstrations/ acts and so on..and they are happily enjying thier freedom of expression...trust me there are many!!!

 

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painther said NIC, its not as simple as ...

NIC, its not as simple as the picture you posted here. there are many such pictures you can find in india too , nude picture including their Gods & goddeses. It goes on in Stride! But
How will you react if, the son is shown having intercourse with his mother and they both are your beloved or related??
furious right???

 

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Nic said painther, Am I allowed to ...

painther,
Am I allowed to have an opinion about this case?

If yes, read my last sentence of my last comment:

"I respect, it’s their entire right, I do not agree though!"

 

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FriedUnicorn said Nic you have the right and I'am enjoying :) ...

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painther said Nic, Yes you are surely, see ...

Nic, Yes you are surely, see last para of my one of post too ! I just tried, as my right, humbly, point of view of other side.

 

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Nic said Painther, I would find if ...

Painther,
I would find if obscene and would not like it and would not look at it, maybe I would publicly express my views but I would not cause any harm to the author. He maybe crazy or just deliberately offensive, but I would have no right to stop his creations (no matter how much I couldn’t stand their sight).

Now this is what I think, in no way I am trying to enforce it on India.
India does what they judge right for the Nation and I respect.
I was just caught by surprise, I would expect more flexibility in what I see a modern and diverse democratic country, that’s all.
No offense, I respect all your point of views, I just don’t embrace them.
Hope you are OK withthis!

 

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heero_yuy2 said Will finally get to meet MF Hussein in Qatar ...

Many years staying in UAE and Emiratis doesn't like him till now? ;-P

But, uhmm, I hope he won't have a hard time florishing his artistry here if we still even have some trouble on media freedom around here.

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painther said hmmm, yes I'm ok with ...

hmmm, yes I'm ok with that,
(i wouldnt, if I had to take any certificate from anyoone else including you of "modern and diverse democratic country".)
Just for information, all modern democratic countries (i guess you'll agree) hhave constitutiona and penal provisions against such "crazy or just deliberately offensive including obscene presentation. India to has.
as I said earlier, he had enough reason to be prosecuted under these penal codes but as i said earleir ther are many such creature there r thriving in the name of freedom of expression, which some like & some doesn't.
I reiterate, govt of India did nothing, rather protected his rights;
(he's not expelled, please correct all here)
It's his wish if he's living in Dubai, and as I know he's still in touch with india, selling paintings, being honored (yes some organization it sometime back), being interview & watched, friends visiting n so on.....!

 

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TruthNPeace said SS, You again........ What ...

SS, You again........
What great service you are doing posting such threads???
You want to be crowned as 'Controversy Queen" or gosssip queen r what???)....SAD!!!
You are simply doing disservice to what you claim, being revered patriotic!!!
anyways I'll not waste my energy for your stupid threads anymore !!

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Nic said painther, great ;) ...

painther,
great ;)

 

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svelte_saggi said TnP ...

and you again!please don't disturb me while i'm ignoring you.you say u will "not waste my energy for your stupid threads anymore" and time and again you stalk me around.uff!

this was just a news article that is out in the world's newspapers,FYI.not gossip.not controversy.not personal life.now,please continue to "not waste my energy for your stupid threads anymore"....it sure does make life much better.

thank you! :-P

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whyteknight said It was similar to the Danish ...

It was similar to the Danish cartoons and hurt the sensitivities of a large percentage of the population..
The sensitivities of people differ with culture, what maybe acceptable in the western world may not be acceptable in the east..

Personally I think he is over-rated as a painter.

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svelte_saggi said umm...i reckon this topic ...

umm...i reckon this topic has swerved way past it's subject.please don't turn it into religion bashing.i'm not liking the course it's taking.

has qatar conferred nationalities on people before?or is this a state first?just curious.....

and it is mentioned in the news that India does not recognize multiple citizenship.but what about all those NRIs who have settled all over the US,Canada,UK and the far east?i personally know of people who hold twin passports :-/

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whyteknight said No SS.. From what I read ...

No SS.. From what I read about our constitution, Dual citizenship is not allowed.. I am not 100 % sure though, i read it long time back.

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svelte_saggi said so all those NRIs?do they ...

so all those NRIs?do they need visas to come to india? :-o

i really don't know.that's why i ask.

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whyteknight said Nope.. You get an NRI ...

Nope.. You get an NRI status, With that you don't need a Visa to go back.

"Live with passion, Die with style"

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svelte_saggi said but they do get those 'green ...

but they do get those 'green cards' don't they?i mean i have plenty of relatives in the US whose kids are american citizens but their parents are still indian but they have 'green cards'.....uff!complicated!

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s_isale said Green cards is different to ...

Green cards is different to holding an American passport.
Once an Indian takes citizenship of another country he loses automatically his Indian citizenship. But the Indian govt provides two options one is the POI card that has been enacted recently and there is another one which is much older than POI card and gives you more rights..

 

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TruthNPeace said Ooooooofffff SS, it seems I ...

Ooooooofffff SS, it seems I have to leave QL now, you are alaround spreading you doubts, confusions & lastly claiming noone understand your point of views, Right, I wrote it many times for you... what to do...you too did same n same again!!
for your doubts which you can easily google and find solutions, why are you posting a thread which can easily be turned as religious bashing....( i recall its 4-5 times now when i warned you.....lets be serious SS)
did you see, people jumped here with their hatred arsenal (they hav it plenty)!!!

btw, lately i decided i'll not leave QL for you.........your innocence (i replced it with ignorance for peace) keeps me busy!!
:)-

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Dot.Com said Kill all painters who ...

promote nudity :P

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Nic said Dot.com, there you go...sad ...

Dot.com,
there you go...sad man!

 

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Dot.Com said Nic ...

i've doubt about this offer to MF Husain for Qatari Nationality.
In most cases, these kind of ppl got European or American offers.
Jump on Man :P
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svelte_saggi said PnT or TnP ...

a decision to leave QL and stay on QL within the same comment....you definitely are one 'unconfused' soul yourself,my friend!

and are you a MOD?coz i was under the impression that only MODS have the authority to warn members :-/

like i said,you seem to be very irritated by my ignorance/innocence and apparently there are many others who are not.i request you to kindly leave the thread to my worthy "friends" to answer.

i repeat an earlier statement.if you don't like a thread/comment/member,you can always ignore it.but if your intent is to specifically attack,then there's nothing much we can do about it,no? :-)

guess i'll go back to ignoring you :-)

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Nic said No one who wishes another ...

No one who wishes another human being death will enter paradise!
Only God can judge!

 

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Dot.Com said and those will enter ...

to paradise, who are helping their dady for killing another humans on routine base ?

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babba said But there are many other ...

But there are many other dangerous idiots in India who always challange the Indian democracy and good relation between community. Why we still need them.. why we still keep them... why not expelled?
Wrong is always Wrong and it is dangerous regardless who...

 

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Nic said No Dot, they will go to hell ...

No Dot, they will go to hell together with those who wish death to others.
If you are a man of principles and morals, you should never wish death to any other human being!
Please remember this for the rest of your life!

 

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Dot.Com said Nic ...

i can't follow those well-wishers who brutally support killers.

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painther said hmm ...

hmmm

 

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Nic said Dot, Then go to hell and ...

Dot,
Then go to hell and don’t complain after that I didn’t warn you ;)

For your info, I am against all forms of war, violence, terror and abuse!

 

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Dot.Com said I wish, u can stand on ur words :-) ...

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Nic said Dot,Don’t you worry about ...

Dot,
Don’t you worry about me my friend! You’ll never see me endorsing any violence against human beings.
Do worry about yourself, when you think about wishing death to someone. You know Allah may punish you and that is why I am advising you to never ever wish death to anyone, not even to our enemies.
God is the one who will reward and punish accordingly, isn't it?

 

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hyrcania said Well....India might be the ...

Well....India might be the greatest democracy, but so far as people there are concerned, they are YEARS behind the western world. People need to be educated and that takes time (Hope this is no offense to our indian community here)

As was mentioned things like that happen quite alot in west, but they don't shut the newspaper, imprison the painter, journalist and furthermore the painter or......doesn't need to leave his/her country because he/she receives death threat..... Education, education, education...

 

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deepb said It wasn't the government of ...

It wasn't the government of India that expelled him. He angered a lot of people with his works. Some of them are of the extremist type. He got scared of their response and fled the country. Nothing to do with the government really, just a few anti-social elements. And I believe those are everywhere, not just in one particular country.

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svelte_saggi said hyrcania ...

please...this is not a thread for india-bashing.thank you.

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Arien said hyrcania you said it right, ...

hyrcania you said it right, India has a longway to go. and it needs time too.. you are talkin about the 1/6th of the world population!!

Countries who has wealth and lac manpower , should be looking at adopting professionals like, specialist doctors, scientists, engineers, analysts..etc who will support and help the growth of the country , thats what US, Canada , Aussies..etc do ... instead of bringing in 95 year old useless antiques.

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hyrcania said deepb Who said it was indian ...

deepb

Who said it was indian govenment?
Education refers to people not the govenment.

ss

Your arguement has no basis. why do you think that way?
India bashing?!.......Grrrrrrr

 

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svelte_saggi said hyrcania ...

Your statement "India might be the greatest democracy, but so far as people there are concerned, they are YEARS behind the western world. People need to be educated and that takes time.As was mentioned things like that happen quite alot in west, but they don't shut the newspaper, imprison the painter, journalist and furthermore the painter or......doesn't need to leave his/her country because he/she receives death threat..... Education, education, education..." is sufficiently explicit to show that you are pointing accusing fingers againt an entire nation,sir.and a disclaimer like (Hope this is no offense to our indian community here) won't really work in this case.

and i was not posting an argument.it was just a request to kindly refrain from any more insulting.

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nikipu said very good...this guys doesnt ...

very good...this guys doesnt deserve to be in india...i hope one by one all traitors will leave india...

this old psycho..dont know to respect other religion..

i congratulate those people u have made this happen..good job guys..so whos next? please throw them out of country as soon as possible..

chill

 

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deepb said I was responding to NIC's ...

I was responding to NIC's comments about the Indian government.

And a few extremist groups does not equal the country hyrcania.

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hyrcania said ss Insult??!!....what are ...

ss

Insult??!!....what are you talking about?!!

Any country has educated / uneducated people, however one has to think in terms of relative....This doesn't spelling out!...Does it?! or perhaps you think 1/6 of the population of the world which live in India are all educated!!...

I like the bit "won't really work in this case" in your post.....you seem to be the judge and the jury!!

 

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hyrcania said deepb Exactly..... That is ...

deepb

Exactly..... That is why I am refering to education, which is for people. Those elements (or groups) which can't tolerate any other way of thinking / ideas.

 

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Winn said Like a couple of people said ...

Like a couple of people said before, the Indian govt hasnt imposed any bans on him. He is free on that count, but he has definitely angered quite a few people and hence suffered the same fate as Rushdie or Taslima. But I am not sure whether anybody has issued a fatwa on his head.

Coupla months back I had recieved a fwd from a friend of mine which kind of classified Hussain's paintings. It was kind of amusing to note that he had used nudity or degrading caricatures only while depicting gods/characters from one particular religion. It ended with a comment saying that he had once portrayed hitler in the nude coz his intention was to literally 'strip'(as in insult) Hitler. now, that was just a fwd and I did not have the time to do a research and confirm the facts. But it did contain some of the famous paintings by this guy and quite a lot of them were authentic.

TnP: this is a forum for debate and I do not see why saggi, or anyone else for that matter , cant post a topic that might be interesting to every one. topics posted here, doesnt necessarily need to be of SERVICE to anyone, as far as I know.

 

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Nic said Hyrcania, It is about ...

Hyrcania,
It is about education (not restricted to academics)!
One cannot make others see where they have not yet arrived ;)

 

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svelte_saggi said hyrcania ...

why do i get a feeling (just a feeling) that you are oh-so anti-India?you seem to criticise it for seemingly no reason at all.this thread had no business with india.it had more to do with Qatar conferring citizenship on M.F.Hussain.why do you have to try to take it on a tangent course?

or is it that you have a problem against me like many others?could you please clarify?so that i can understand what exactly you are trying to say when you post comments.

thank you very much.

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Nic said Winn, I agree with you, as ...

Winn,
I agree with you, as often!
;)

 

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deepb said I agree with you on that ...

I agree with you on that hyrcania. Although education does not solve it completely, it at the very least reduces it. These people are misused by playing to their emotions by some political parties usually to fulfill their own agendas. After all, religion seems to be the easiest way of manipulating the uneducated.

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svelte_saggi said thanks Winn.... :-) ...

thanks Winn.... :-)

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Nic said svelte_saggi, Sorry to ...

svelte_saggi,
Sorry to interfere but I don’t think you are being fare to Hyrcania.
I think you are misreading him and therefore misunderstood his objective and partial comment.
This is a public forum, why be so emotional on unsubstantiated assumptions?
We are debating and it's very interesting to see how different people think about one same issue.
Please let the talk flow freely with respect.
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svelte_saggi said Nic ...

it was just a humble attempt NOT to turn this thread into yet another bashing/stoning/mud slinging thread,my friend.i did not mean offence to anyone.people tend to take the topic completely off-topic and before you know it,it's turned into something else.i've seen it happen time and again.

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Nic said deepb, Well said, this is ...

deepb,
Well said, this is what some of us are trying to say, with no intentions of bashing any nation. it just happens everywhere where conditions allow!

 

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smoke said I have nothing intelligent ...

I have nothing intelligent to say about M.F Hussain, though i could come up with various full forms of M.F. But on a lighter note this guy could stand in for Santa Clause. I'm sure he'd get citizenship at the North Pole :D

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svelte_saggi said hahaha! :-D you just made me ...

hahaha! :-D you just made me picture him that way,smoke!a skinny santa?LOL :-D

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hyrcania said ss Is it my English?...we ...

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Is it my English?...we seem to have abit of problem here!!

As you said quite rightly it is just your feeling, however it doesn't mean you are right!.....

Nobody here having a go at Indians, Indian govenment etc etc....

I don't understand the bit refeing to me having problem against you? like many others??!!...what are you talking about?...who are you?...I don't know you, and vice versa. This is forum open to all, for discussion, as long as there is no insult etc etc.

The insult you are refering to, well I am sorry if it came across that way, but really it seems to me you just imagining things and making things up as you go along!....

 

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Nic said svelte_saggi, With all ...

svelte_saggi,
With all respect, I don’t see hyrcania attempting to bash any country here. I think you misread him. His line of thoughts is similar to others'.

Just an advice, in case of someone is bashing something, the best we can do is to ignore otherwise we would be feeding the bash.
Just a thought!

 

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svelte_saggi said Nic,hyrcania ...

i guess i'll take your advice,Nic.....some people are best left ignored.thank you.

hyrcania...everyone is entitled to their thoughts...be they right or wrong.you are to yours and i am to mine.if any of my comments has offended you,please accept my apology.i come from a nation that has people with patriotism running in their veins.my words were just an automatic reaction to a comment that i felt is derogatory to my motherland that i consider equivalent to my own mother.if it was not intended to be so,i'd like to offer my apology again.thank you for taking time to reply to my comments,however.wish you a good day!

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Ice Maiden said Can't under why the Qatar ...

Can't under why the Qatar govt granted citizenship to a 95 year old whose lost his marbles. There must be others more deserving than him. This guy's brain has been "fossilised".
Could not make out head or tail of that movie...what was it.. Gaja Gamini

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smoke said iCE You should know that ...

iCE You should know that Qatar Govt always makes wise decisions...how long would a 95 yr old man live anyways? Even leasing contracts are for 99yrs only i'm sure they thought by the time he's actually been made a citizen he'd be 6 feet under.

Another example of bright ideas is to have speeding at the signals Qr. 500 and breaking the red light Qr.6000 fine :P

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deepb said Simple answer to your ...

Simple answer to your question Ice Maiden - Publicity. Why do you think they are bidding for the World Cup? Why do you think they are trying to get silly world records? Publicity. They want to let the rest of the world know about the tiny country that not many people have heard about.

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svelte_saggi said smoke ...

good that you brought in the speeding fine thingy here.....a little birdie told me that the signal radars check for speeding too.....how true is that?i told her that it's just a rumour....but i must admit i was not sure of it myself :-S

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Ice Maiden said Publicity OK. But get the ...

Publicity OK. But get the "right" kind of publicity.

As for him going 6 feet under, well some do live long...lol

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smoke said Saggy the signal radars do ...

Saggy the signal radars do catch u for speeding...dont believe the rumors just fly by your nearest neighborhood signal and see. For best results try going over 100kmph :D

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Ice Maiden said btw one of his ...

btw one of his eccentricities is his "barefoot" approach. So might have a little difficulty during the summer months here :)

Wonder how he managed in Dubai

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svelte_saggi said smoke ...

what the........!!!!when i see the green light flickering,i suddenly transform into Schumacher and my little Honda changes into a Ferrari :-S i'm not going to be visiting the MOI website for a loooooooooong time! :-S :-S

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