Necromancy

As i promised to one of forum members, i'll be making some posts about Wiccah (Witchcraft) and Necromancy (Necromancers are the people that can talk with the dead souls).
Please note that you shouldn't belive in everything you see on TV, like that guy that says that he can call spirits directly on TV or those series that show Wicca as allowing you to do anything you want, both are far more complex that anyone outside from these religions can think.

Now about Necromancy, i'm gonna post a text that really resumes my religion philosophy.

"ALLAN KARDEC'S "THE SPIRITS' BOOK"

Background (as taken from the book backcover)

Allan Kardec, the nom de plume of H. Leon Denizard Rivail, was a French educator and philosopher born in Lyon in 1804. In 1854 Rivail first heard of the mysterious "rapping" phenomena that had taken America and Europe by storm. Despite his initial skepticism, he was convinced by close friends to attend an experimental meeting where he was able to witness such occurrences firsthand. His intellectual curiosity and scientific instincts told him that there had to be a rational explanation for these phenomena. Consequently, he began soon afterwards to conduct investigations of his own. Eventually he was approached by a group of fellow-researchers who asked him to organize a set of fifty notebooks containing transcripts and journals of numerous spirit communications. Using the same logical rigor that he had applied to his work in education and science, Rivail set out to study this material. In the meantime, he supplemented the transcripts with philosophical and scientific questions, which he posed to different channels (mediums) in different countries. The answers were compared, analyzed, and organized into the present book, which was first published in 1857.

The original english translation of this book, published in the late 1800's, is available for viewing on-line.

Creating a new version

In 1982 the U.S. Allan Kardec Educational Society recognized that the unconventional sentence structure and terminology used in the original English text made it a hard book to read, "at times obfuscating Kardec's flawless logic and the guides' superb discernment and wisdom". They commenced a comprehensive new translation, published in 1996, which can be ordered on the internet here or by mail at the AKES addresses given on their website. The product is an amazingly comprehensive treatise, written primarily by channeled spirit sources, that is remarkably consistent with the other information sources described on this website. The book is written in the form of spirit responses to each of over 1000 questions. It transcends any doctrine and can simply be regarded as a set of spiritual truths which are enduring over centuries. No serious study of the Afterlife should fail to include this book.

Key Spiritual points

The book concludes with the following summary of the most important points provided by the spirits:

God is eternal, immutable, immaterial, unique, all-powerful, sovereignly just and good.

God created the universe, which comprehends all beings, animate and inanimate, material and immaterial.

Physical beings constitute the visible or incarnate world; non-physical beings constitute the invisible or spiritual world, i.e., the spirit-world.

The spirit-world is the normal, original, eternal world; it is pre-existent to and survives everything else.

Ths physical world is secondary. It could cease to exist, or even never have existed at all, and that would not affect the essence of the spirit-world.

Spirits temporarily assume a perishable physical body, the death of which restores them to liberty.

Among the different kinds of physical beings on Earth, God has chosen the human species for the incarnation of spirits who have arrived at a certain degree of development. This characteristic gives the human species an ethical and intellectual advantage over other living species.

The soul is an incarnate spirit, the body its material envelope.

Human beings consist of the following: 1) a body, or physical being, similar to that belonging to animals and animated by the same vital principle; 2) a soul, an immaterial spirit incarnated in the body; 3) an intermediate link which unites the soul and body.

Human beings have, accordingly, two natures: animal and spiritual. Through the body, humans participate in the nature of animals, with which they share instincts. Through the soul, they participate in the nature of the spirits.

A link, known as the perispirit (or spiritual body), unites the body and the spirit. It is a semi-material envelope, as opposed to the fully material envelope of the body. At death, the spirit sheds the physical body, the grosser of the two, but preserves the perispirit or spiritual body. The perispirit constitutes, then, an ethereal body that the spirit can render visible, or even tangible, as in the case of spirit-sightings.

A spirit is not, therefore, an abstract being, a concept of thought. Rather, it is a real and well-defined entity that in certain situations, can be perceived by sight, hearing, and touch.

Spirits belong to different orders; they are not equals either in power, intelligence, knowledge, or ethical excellence. Those in the highest order are distinguished by purity, knowledge and love of goodness--they are the so-called "angels" or "pure spirits". The others are relatively more distant from this perfection. Those in the lower orders are inclined to most of our human feelings and may still take pleasure in wrong-doing. Among them are those who are neither very good nor very bad, but have malicious, mischievous or irksome natures. These might be classed as giddy and foolish spirits.

Spirits do not belong perpetually to the same order. They are destined to attain perfection and, as they do so, progress up through the different orders. This advancement is achieved through incarnations, which are undertaken either as special missions or as trials leading to purification. Physical life is an experience spirits must undergo many times before reaching this goal. These lives can be understood as cleansing exercises from each of which spirits generally emerge in a more purified state.

On leaving the body, the soul returns to the spirit-world, where it exists as a free-spirit (i.e., free from the limitations of the physical world) and where it will stay for an indeterminate time until it enters a new incarnation.

Spirits have many incarnations. From this we can conclude that we have all had many existences, and will have many others on Earth and elsewhere.

The incarnation of spirits only takes place in human beings. Spirits do not incarnate in animal form.

The chain of incarnations is always progressive. The spirit's speed of progress depends on its efforts, but it cannot regress.

The qualities of the person are a reflection of the incarnate spirit's. Consequently, a good person is the incarnation of a good spirit, and a bad person of a less advanced one.

The soul possesses its individuality before incarnating and will preserve it after the death of the body.

On returning to the spirit world, the soul meets those it has known on Earth. In addition, it gradually recalls the actions, both good and harmful, of its former lives.

An incarnate spirit is under the influence of matter. Those who surmount this influence through self-purification raise themselves nearer to the higher spheres. Those who give in to instinctual tendencies and pursue solely the gratification of physical desires are closer to the inferior realm.

Incarnated spirits live on different worlds throughout the universe.

Free (or not incarnated) spirits do not occupy a circumscribed space. They are everywhere, and both perceive and regularly associate with human beings. They constitute an invisible but active society that constantly interacts with our own.

Spirits constantly exert an inflence on both the physical and ethical environments of the Earth. They constitute one of the powers of nature, since they may act equally upon matter and thought. They are the cause of many sorts of previously unexplained or misinterpreted phenomena, which may now find a compelling rationale in the Spiritist Doctrine.

Spirits constantly interrelate with human beings. The good ones inspire people to take the high road, sustain them through trials, and instill in them courage and resignation. On the other hand, the less advanced ones inculcate sordid ideas and depressive thoughts. They take pleasure in our troubles and strive to make us like themselves.

Spirit interactions with human beings can be either suble or direct. The subtle communications happen without our awareness, generally in the form of inspiration. We need to exercise discernment, however, in distinguishing between the uplifting and the malevolent kinds. Direct exchanges occur through writing, speech, and other physical manifestations, usually with the intervention of amedium who acts as a link between the two worlds.

Spirits may communicate spontaneously or in response to human evocations. Generally speaking, all free intelligences may be evoked--from the most obscure to the most illustrious, from loved ones to enemies--regardless of the epoch in which they lived. If permitted, they may share information about their new situation, their thoughts regarding us, and any insights they feel like imparting.

Spirits move by laws of affinity. Advanced spirits take pleasure in assemblies with serious purpose, wherein members are animated by love and a sincere desire to learn and progress. Their presence repels less advanced spirits. The latter, in turn, find themselves at ease among frivolous and simple minds who come together solely out of curiosity or other harmful motives. In such assemblies nothing useful is produced. The spirits' suggestions are trifling, ill-natured, and deceptive. To make matters worse, they often borrow venerated names to impose their ideas more effectively.

It is easy to distinguish between advanced and less advanced spirits. The language of higher spirits is dignified, high-minded, and free from every trace of human passion. Their cousels breathe wisdom. Their aim is always the advancement of humanity. On the other hand, remarks by less advanced spirits make use of commonplace, sometimes coarse, language and often contain substantial inconsistencies. Although they sometimes make true and worthwhile statements, their observations are usually ethically flawed and full of false arguments. They play upon the naivete of their audience by feeding false hopes and swelling their listeners' egos. Obviously, enlightening communications can only be obtained in assemblies of a serious character where participants are united in thought and desire by the pursuit of love and truth.

The ethical teachings of the higher spirits may be summed up in the words of Christ: "Do unto others as you would that others should do unto you". In brief, do good to all and wrong no one. This principle of action furnishes humanity with a rule of conduct with universal application, from the most trivial to the most critical matters.

Enlightened intelligences teach that self-centeredness, pride and sensuality keep human beings engrossed in their animal nature. Accordingly, the person who detaches him or herself from wordly things and who practices "love thy neighbor" grows more spiritual. The spirits advise that we always serve others, as our means allow us, and that the strong and powerful owe assistance and protection to the weak. They caution that the person who misuses power to oppress his or her follow beings violates the laws of God. They also teach that in the spirit-world nothing can be hidden; that the hypocrite is unmasked and his or her wrongdoing revealed; that the unavoidable presence of those we have wronged on Earth is one of the trials we must face in the spirit world; and that the ethical state of spirits, depending on how advanced or unadvanced they are, gives rise in that world to enjoyments or suffering and regrets.

Further, they teach that there are no unpardonable faults and that there is no misdeed that cannot be redressed. Men and women find the means of redemption and progress through reincarnation. Their desire and effort set the pace of their advancement toward the ultimate aim of all--perfection."

Please note that this text isn't mine but belongs to http://www.afterlife101.com/Spirits_Book.html , but all feal free to ask anything you want about necromancy.

But 1st, no, the spirits of dead wont tell you, your future and some can deceive you, so, never think they are 100% true, because some low spirits are like children, they have no notion of responsability, do and say things that aren't intirly trueth.
Also, don't you all think that everybody can do these things, you may have bad results if you try something like this as a joke.

Comments

Never forget this: "(...)The ethical teachings of the higher spirits may be summed up in the words of Christ: "Do unto others as you would that others should do unto you".(...)" Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Thank you for posting that. It was an interesting read. This sort of stuff doesn't wildly contradict any of the main religions, instead it compliments it, except for the reincarnation stuff. Western religions seem to want us to believe we only get one crack at this stuff and then it's all over. It seems to me that the prospect of a better life in heaven (rather than returning to earth to try your luck again) was what held back a lot of western civilisations. There was no goal to try and make life better on earth because a lot of cultures just thought things will pick up once your dead. Cultures that believed in reincarnation instead tried to make the material world a better place because they knew they would be returning (in some form or another).
Interesting...I've always liked the idea of reincarnation. Visit www.qatarhappening.com
Repent unto the INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN for you are deceived by the Purple Oyster of Doom. My sock draw contains no pairs thus indicating I am blessed by our IPU ,take heed of this sign. Blessed Be Her Holy Hooves,May Her Hooves Never Be Shod. "It is common when discussing the Invisible Pink Unicorn to point out that because she is invisible, no one can prove that she does not exist (or indeed that she is not pink). This is a parody of similar theistic claims about God—that God, as creator of the universe, is not subject to its laws and thus not materially detecting him tells us nothing about his existence or lack thereof. (It has likewise been said that trying to find God is like using a metal detector to search for unicorns in one's sock drawer.) The Invisible Pink Unicorn is an illustration which attempts to demonstrate the absurdity of citing attributes and a lack of evidence as proof of a deity's existence. Her two defining attributes, invisibility and color (pink), are inconsistent and contradictory; this is part of the satire. The paradox of something being invisible yet having visible characteristics (e.g., color) is reflected in some East Asian cultures, wherein an "invisible red string" is said to connect people who have a shared or linked destiny.[2] The IPU and similar ideas have been used as teaching devices in the past. In his essay The Dragon in my Garage from his book The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In the Dark, Carl Sagan uses the example of an invisible dragon breathing heatless fire that someone claims lives in his garage.[14] The supposed dragon cannot be seen or heard or sensed in any way, nor does it leave footprints. We have no reason to believe this purported dragon exists. This raises the question: How does the claimant know that this is a dragon, rather than, for instance, a cat? For that matter, how can we know that the IPU is pink and has one horn instead of three horns, or none at all? This observation is suggested in the title of a book by Judith Hayes—In God We Trust: But Which One? There are humorous mock-serious debates amongst her "followers" concerning her other attributes, such as whether she is completely invisible, or invisible to most, but visible to those who have faith in her (bearing similarities to The Emperor's New Clothes).Some of these debates are quite elaborate and tortuous, satirizing the disputatiousness and intricacy of many religions' theological debates.Despite this, over time some agreement has developed regarding her attributes, with the most humorous and incongruous generally gaining the greatest consensus. For example, it is more or less agreed that she is partial to ham and pineapple pizza, although some vegetarians dissent, arguing that because IPU is vegetarian, it must be pineapple and mushrooms. Pineapple, anyway, is agreed upon, as is the fact that she despises pepperoni. Another point of agreement is that IPU "raptures" socks, which accounts for their otherwise inexplicable tendency to disappear. Socks raptured from one's laundry are allegedly a "sign" of favor from IPU—or it could be disfavor, depending on who is asked, or perhaps upon which socks are raptured. Similar to the Abrahamic devil, the Invisible Pink Unicorn is said to have an "opponent" in the Purple Oyster.[15] "For I did see my unworthiness in Her sight, for I was a sinner, destined forever to spend existence in the presence of the unholy Purple Oyster, waxing his shell and massaging his most wretched and slimy feet. For lo, the Purple Oyster doth truly have feet, and the legs thereof, and the toes thereof, giving him dominion over all the clams of the seas, and allowing him to go unto the children of men, and tempt them unto destruction." — The Revelation of St. Bryce the Long-Winded (Partial), Chapter One, Verses 9 to 11[16]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn "Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10."
Rami: The main problem with all religions is that all say that God/Allah is perfect but at same time, we humanize Him, on other words, we like the idea of being God/Allah's choosen ones, by doing it, we create a different image of Him, to necromancers, the so called profets were purer spirits that were sent to Earth to teach us, if we gather all that they have tought, we'll probably understand God's/Allah message. Moses/Mohamed - Were the warrior profets Jesus Christ/Gandhi - Were peace profets If you may be wondering why i call warriors to ones and peaceful to others, you just need to read the messages of the 4 to take your decisions. Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Adey: "Blessed be the ignorant because they'll be welcomed into the Kingdom of Heavens" Adey: You call blafesmy to something you ignore? Do you follow any religion? God/Allah has tought me to love and respect every one, one of the reasons why you never heard much about necromancy is that we don't try to convert anyone, and people may start to feal the call, but not all do. Necromancy was always part of Monotheism, so, that means that it sounds complementar to any monotheist religion. For you it may sound as a pink elephant just like flying would sound to anyone around 200 years ago, but i'll give you an example of intolerence from people that were as ceptic as you, difference is that they used to base themselfs on the Bible to disagree, but you have no bases for your opinion, you want a proof, so, i'll just tell you that there are several cases of people that reencarnated on others body and still remembered everything that had happened on his/her previous life, confirmed by the deceased person relatives. " Main article: Galileo affair Cristiano Banti's 1857 painting Galileo facing the Roman Inquisition Cristiano Banti's 1857 painting Galileo facing the Roman Inquisition Western Christian biblical references Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, and 1 Chronicles 16:30 include text stating that "the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved." In the same tradition, Psalm 104:5 says, "the LORD set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." Further, Ecclesiastes 1:5 states that "And the sun rises and sets and returns to its place, etc."[88] Galileo defended heliocentrism, and claimed it was not contrary to those Scripture passages. He took Augustine's position on Scripture: not to take every passage literally, particularly when the scripture in question is a book of poetry and songs, not a book of instructions or history. The writers of the Scripture wrote from the perspective of the terrestrial world, and from that vantage point the sun does rise and set. In fact, it is the earth's rotation which gives the impression of the sun in motion across the sky." "With the loss of many of his defenders in Rome because of Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, Galileo was ordered to stand trial on suspicion of heresy in 1633. The sentence of the Inquisition was in three essential parts: * Galileo was required to abjure the opinion that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, and that the Earth is not at its centre and moves; the idea that the Sun is stationary was condemned as "formally heretical."[90] * He was ordered imprisoned; the sentence was later commuted to house arrest. * His offending Dialogue was banned; and in an action not announced at the trial, publication of any of his works was forbidden, including any he might write in the future.[91] Tomb of Galileo Galilei, Santa Croce Tomb of Galileo Galilei, Santa Croce While there is no doubt that Pope Urban VIII and the vast majority of Church officials did not believe in heliocentrism, heliocentrism was never formally or officially condemned by the Catholic Church, except insofar as it held (for instance, in the formal condemnation of Galileo) that "The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures", and the converse as to the Sun's not revolving around the Earth.[" Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei God/Allah bless you and enlight your path. Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I forgive you as you are new and don't know me. The 'blasphemy' comment was 'tongue in cheek'. "one of the reasons why you never heard much about necromancy" - that's a big assumption on your part! It's called Spiritualism in the UK, though there is no reincarnation aspect, and it's been debunked for years. I am as skeptical as you are of the INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN, please try and prove her hoofed holiness doesn't exist? "Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10."
People 'see' and 'communicate with' what appear to be the 'spirits of dead people' even though it's nobody they knew in life. These 'spirits' are often dressed in clothes from another time period.Ghost stories are also found around the world in legend and folklore. This isn't proof that the dead survive, of course, but it indicates that people could have got the idea of souls from 'experiences' rather than from being afraid of the prospect of death. There have been different beliefs about it depending on culture too. Some are happy to have their ancestors available to give advice while others want the dead to move on as quickly as possible and not come back. After lives haven't always been pictured as something wonderful to be looked forward too, either. Sheol certainly wasn't. "Judaism before 623 BCE. The ancient Israelites originally followed a polytheistic religion; their beliefs were identical to other Semitic peoples. The dead were believed to have led type of shadowy existence under the earth, without energy, and separated from God. People worshipped both their ancestors in the underworld and many Sky Gods in heaven. "The dead of all nations and all walks of life were sent to Sheol. There was no judgment day. All individuals ended up in Sheol after death - both those who had led a righteous and those who were evil while on earth. See Genesis 42:38 and Numbers 16:30-33. bullet" "Most writers of the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) portrayed Sheol as a grim place. Its inhabitants were seen as living a type of shadowy existence for all eternity. It was dark. "The dead existed without thought, strength, or even consciousness." The dead could also be accessed through necromancy. 1 Samuel 28:7-20 describes how King Saul persuaded a medium at Endor to contact the spirit of the deceased Samuel in order to predict the future. http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4139&p=53199&hilit=necromancy#p53199 "Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10."
"one of the reasons why you never heard much about necromancy" - that's a big assumption on your part! It's called Spiritualism in the UK, though there is no reincarnation aspect, and it's been debunked for years. I am as skeptical as you are of the INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN, please try and prove her hoofed holiness doesn't exist?" R: I know that, you know that, but my experience of talking with Arabic people, necromancer is easyer to understand. Will continue tomorrow ;) Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
"I know that, you know that, but my experience of talking with Arabic people, necromancer is easyer to understand." Yet you still persist in offering an existence post death where no proof at all, ever, has existed. Peace :) "Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10."
Hmmm, according to several Japonese cientists,on a program at The Civilization channel, they said they knew that there's life after death, just can't prove it cientifically. Hmmm, calling folklore to a religion makes me think that you show some cepticism about other people's beliefs, if we (Spiritists) would belive in evil, i would say that you were trying to destroy the path of Peace and Love conceived by God/Allah's. Based on your afirmations, guess you are christian, without pretending to deny existence of God/Allah's, may i ask you what proofs you have that He exists? Do you know much about history? Did you knew that Romans called to the Messiah, a myth, legend, folklore? Remember that Jesus Christ received the same punishment as any common thief, and now you come here not to build but to destroy? Following up the words of Christ: "Do unto others as you would that others should do unto you" Wishing you well, that God/Allah's enlighten your way to the Light. Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Atheist. There is no god or gods and never have been. No such thing as a soul, thus no spirits, or afterlife in any form, unless you mean that matter can not be destroyed; thus the atoms that make me up would continue but 'I' wouldn't. "Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10."
is not just limited to the conversing with the spirits. Most people who claim they practice necromancy claim they can control the dead, bring dead tissue back to life and use the undead to do their bidding. Much like the Haitian Voodoo priests use "zombies" to work their plantations. It is a very dark area and one that has no relation to Wicca or spiritualism for that matter. people who profess to have mastered the art of necromancy are usually solitary in their practice and as for the raising of the dead it is still yet to be proven. However "zombies" are in fact are real phenomenon and don't actually use the dead, the "zombies" of Haiti are actually still alive, but are given a drug that slows there heart and breathing till it is almost non existent due to the poor training of doctors on the island most are pronounced dead, buried only to be dug up later by the ever vigilant henchmen of the priest.
Mis-Cat, please dont mix up necromancy and Voodoo. In Spiritism, we have normal cerimonies just like any priest or Iman does at Mosques and Churches, talking to spirits happens on Medium sessions, not everybody can participate, like i previouslly said, don't belive everything you see on TV. Wiccah belives in God/Allah as being Mother Nature, there's white and black magic, will gladly explain differences between both. Adey, I respect your option of being atheist, just don't understand what someone that doesn't belive in religion comes to criticise the ones that belive, it's almost the same as a vegetarian talking about an equilibrated meal with meat and fish. Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I am sorry but there is obliviously the translation from Arabic to English has a different meaning to you. for starters Wicca does not believe in god/Allah as being mother nature, it believes in both the God and the Goddess in their many forms and it will depend on the path you take as to what name you call them by it has no relation to any of the three main religions other than it predates all of them and for the better part Christianity uses the Sabbaths of wicca as there own, there is, I agree white and dark but this becomes a grey area as to where the line is drawn and you cross over from one to the other, this will also depend whether you are a solitary practitioner or you belong to a coven. Necromancy is again not just conversing with spirits it is summoning as I stated there are those who claim to practice necromancy that also claim they use this summoning to bring the dead back to life and has in the past been likened to Voodoo for this part. Wicca and Necromancy are too different paths wicca does not encourage the summoning of the dead to do ones bidding infact it does not use any form of summoning of the dead at all, wicca invokes the gods and their many forms and this is how the "spell" is cast. I don't need someone who obliviously still knows little about what he delves into to teach me the difference. It is a subject that I am very experienced in and believe me when I say my information does not come from a television set.
Ms Cat: Like i stated at start, i don't know much about Wicca and intended reading to be able to explain it. Now, regarding Necromancy/espiritism, 2nd time in a row i tell you, Voodoo is different, Voodoo is a politheist religion, so, linking Necromancy/Espiritism to Voodoo is the same as saying that Moses, Jesus and Mohamed are Gods of the Greek mithology. I also don't need someone who obviouslly still knows litle about spiritism to come teach me anything, on the other side i detect some complex of "I'm right and the others are all wrong". God/Allah bless you and that he enlights your path. Only God Can Judge Me الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
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