Why aren't people respecting Qatar?

I noticed many people do not respect local Qataries or they do not respect the country. They come here without having an idea about our culture and religion. All they think about is how much salary they will take.

We as a Qataries feel worried about the thousands of outlandish people and we try to be open with others but if they respect our culture and our land.

What do u think..?

Comments

shamsiec

hmmmm....i feel qataries hv a respect towards others.....they behave well.....but some coming from outside dont gv back respect.....it depends on each one's attitude.....

anonymous

Not everyone is a bad apple, but there are some out there that need to be sort out properly.

Anyhow, I'm American and I know.

PS

I'm having dinner today with a Syrian, a Jew, A Lebanese, an Iranian, a Palestinian, a chinese, a gay and a North Korean, only for the purpose that I will keep my eyes on them.

Just kidding



“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

anonymous

Too many Camel Jockeys going locos in town Amigo..

They act like they got a very "HOT JALAPEÑO" stuck in the rear muchacho....

Yo se, there is no tequila plants in the desert, but you could drink your Bepsi in many ways to get respect mijo.

Where is my sombrero?

It is siesta time pinche jodido!

Don't bother me no more with your nonsense.



“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

mksingh

Better working conditions would go a long way. Just compare with UAE about the rules for changing jobs, family visa, noc, exit permit, visit visa etc.
All expatriates in middle eastern countries are bonded labours held by golden chains.

lusitano

...their own country. Go to the Qatari desert and see what I mean. It is sad to see rubbish all over, left by Qataris...
I respect Qatar as I respect any other country, but the disrespect (often from Qataris) I see here, I have never seen in any other countries I have been.
Civilization levels are generally low here (respect, human rights, etc...).
Honestly, I never had an emigration officer screaming at me and threatening me that if I has a problem, he will show me what he could do, as this is HIS country and I need him more than he needs me... what a welcome reception at the Qatar Airport last night!....

As far as for the really nice and human Qataris, I feel sorry for to be seen by the world the way they are!

What shocks me the most is the government does nothing to educate society here in Qatar.
Simple adds would provide some awareness to those who have no education, such as:
- drive respectfully
- do not throw rubbish out of the designated areas;
Respect others equally;
- pay fare salaries to those who build your country and give them human life conditions (contrary to what is happening here now, which is an "offense to Islam")
- Etc
- Etc
- Etc

anonymous

Don't get caught throwing garbage in my beach or it will cost you one Oil field(Money wise), jail time and a very long walk cleaning those beaches for miles to come as part of 10000 hours penalty of community services.



“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

askme

I respect Qatar more than they do for me !!!

Victory_278692

I read most of the comments and concluded that It is a 2 way bond.....respect cannot be asked for, this should be "inbuilt values" which comes to you from your Parents, people around you and country, which is rich with the cultural values. I agree one can't teach anybody (adult) a Lesson on RESPECT.

Read Beepinoy's comment on previous page and to add from my experience in Doha. Qatar is growing very fast in recent years and flooded with expatriate population. We do need to show respect being a good guest,

We are Guest here in a Foreign country as a good guest we should respect your host.

Again its a matter of 2 ways communication, being language is a barrier. People with knowledge of dual spoken language especially (Eng & ARABIC) has a better edge and repo with locals and influence easily.

As there are always a mix of different communities in every society, its same in Qatar.

Most of the asian migrate in Qatar due to various factor (different in individual case) , everybody love his/her own nation. It is very clear from Day one that You will get Citizenship in this part of world (GCC), so don't crib on this point.

Regarding discrimination of Laws for locals and expatriates is painful. All humans are same, RACISM is not accepted anywhere in the world.

To have harmony among all resident is possible with some extra effort to be made by NGO or social and family affairs departments to organise International cultural events in Qatar and invite all communities to represent.

I am sure such initiative will definitely bring all of us more close, regular communication and will break the ICE.

One need to be positive and look forward positively, as UAE has changed a lot in last decade, we will insha-allah see the similar or better changes in future.

lusitano

Not acknowledging the problem, will never solve it!

davidpearlshaun

Respect has to be earned-forcing respect earns only fear which is what I see most of here in Qatar!! Laws made to protect people but they are not enforced or enforced only to the "lesser" person!!I see Qataris on a regular basis putting my family at risks so they can be one car in front of me at a red light!! I see people leaving there families and countries for 2 years at a time and being treated like maggots here. Then when they are free one day a week they want to feel at home as much as possible by dressing the way they would at home and doing things the way they would at home-so what!! They are here building your dam country-give them respect and they'll respect you. In the U.S. a counstruction worker makes minumum $7 an hour or 26 qr per hour. Here its what 70 rihals or $19 a day-would you respect someone or there country that exploits you and your country men like that? Walk in there shoes for a day you stuck up rich ass lazy Qatari!! (there are some nice kind generous Qataris out there-this was not geared towards those humane Qataris)

davidpearlshaun

I had a Qatari last night almost run me over on my bicycle!! He saw me, I made eye contact as I was passing by his window, what did he do. Decided to drive on the shoulder where I was and put my life at risk so he could beat traffic. He came within 1/2 inch of nailing me. I wonder what he would tell to my wife or my 2 year old son you f*&#ing bastard. Would you sacrifice your family for mine since you sacrificed my life for yours? I use to respect any country I was in. I even tried to learn arabic- then one Qatari laughed at me when I tried to say "Shalam"-then he and his wife and son started chanting-salami salami salami. You talk of respect. The hard working poor people working there asses off building your country and then Qataris cut que in front of these humans taking precious time off work to get stuff done that they can't get done on there day off because gov't offices are closed. Show them some respect. While they work there butts off for you Qataris take there sweat ass time chatting with there friends or staring blanky into the air as these people stand in line-respect? Oooooooohhh you got me worked up now. (once again this is not all Qataris-I do respect those who earn respect-I respect your culture also and your country but for those (which is most I run in to) have little or no respect for another humans life-kiss my white American &55)

abohmaid

for now let us forget about ur white american &55
and i will advive to keep showing respect

davidpearlshaun

I show respect to those who earn it and deserve it. I always will and do respect the countries culture and the laws even if they are not enforced! But as far as the people-thats differs by individual

davidpearlshaun

like I said abohmaid this is not aimed at you or any other Qatri in particular. Just the ones who disgrace there own culture and country by disrepecting everything not under there own shirt. So no disrespect to you as I don't know you and as long as I feel respected by you I will also respect you.

teena maria

Pardon for what you've posted,I would like to correct you,we came here to work to earn for a living,however it dosen't necessary mean that we ignore your culture & traditions.If it is so,maybe in time of ramadan we will be doing incorrect behaviors,like neglecting your religious practices or by harassing qatari women.But i've been here in DOHA for nearly 6 years & up to now my respect & love for your country stays the same.We may be foreign to your country but we do & follow your rules & regulations.

monique

Respect is gained and earned. It is not automatic. People and countries earn respect through hardwork, individual behaviour, etc....just look at Singapore and Japan.

anonymous

AS SALAAM ALAIKUM DEZINER,

Hey there,
u selected a good topic....

But allow me to spread few points.

Well, its not that expatriate do not respect the country, its people and culture.

The day any person decide to leave their country, they think about the new country, its people abd culture. And they believe to try to follow the most. However, they might not follow 100%. Apart from that all know Qatar follow Sahriya law (Islamic rule). May b some non muslims are not acquainted or not b comfortable. Like clothes , etc....Ofcourse, I do feel men - women clothes should b covered.

But as a muslim, do we all follow 100% law, do we offer 5 times prayers. What we do to make non muslim show that we follow Islam in the best possible manner....

So many times, the masjids are vacant during Fajar salaah.....Have you seen so many crimes done by our Muslim brothers....And how much are we helping them.....Lets not argue with expatriates, residents or government.....

I personally observed that many Qataries, Government machineries and ofcourse expatriates and some companies are really doing marvellous for the country and its people. Not only in terms of building the towers, but donations, helping needy people, etc. etc...

Only bcoz of few people we should not hold all expatriates not following culture. Nor any expatriates should point out about the country and its people.....

I believe this palnet is ours and its individual's responsibility to take care of one another....

What you give is what u get and we should stop complaining, regretting the government, culture and its people....

I appeal to all the citizens of the world to share the common goal of peace, love and integrity towards the nation where you reside.....

Any mistake in this article please forgive.....

Salaam again to all

nancyb

I beg to disagree with you. I did a comprehensive study of Qatari culture prior to working here. I think this has been done by the majority of expats here. It is beneficial as it prepared me to effectively deal with my students and so with their parents and colleagues as well.

BeMyBro

I noticed the same thing.

Many indeed grow to love Qatar.

but many also come with preset ideas that do not change.

For example the other day in Hamad hospital a "westerner" woman made a scene because the desk clerk didn't speak English.

Qatari doctor out of respect took her aside and apologized to her....but winked at the desk clerk lol.

Another "Asian" doctor that works in Hamad hospital is known to have amazing racism and prejudice against the locals (specially the Bedouins). He is the type that always brags of being from a "High class" family.

Not everyone is equal and we certainly dont stereotype people according to their race or background.

This is a Muslim country first and foremost. If you respect us we will certainly respect you.

BeMyBro

I noticed the same thing.

Many indeed grow to love Qatar.

but many also come with preset ideas that do not change.

For example the other day in Hamad hospital a "westerner" woman made a scene because the desk clerk didn't speak English.

Qatari doctor out of respect took her aside and apologized to her....but winked at the desk clerk lol.

Another "Asian" doctor that works in Hamad hospital is known to have amazing racism and prejudice against the locals (specially the Bedouins). He is the type that always brags of being from a "High class" family.

Not everyone is equal and we certainly dont stereotype people according to their race or background.

This is a Muslim country first and foremost. If you respect us we will certainly respect you.

ringohiqups

dezigner.. my point is if the qataris learn to respect us expats, then there should be no problem.. i know i do my part to respect whoever im dealing with regardless where they come from...but i still come across rude qataris especially while driving.they act like we are slaves here and have no rights. yes lots of us came her for the money, but still deserve to be respected too.....in this case, while driving, i dont give any respect to them at all. i know it is not all qataris that are like that, but there is a whole lot of you that do not respect us too, its a two way thing, as you see...if you go to my country, i can bet you that you will get your respect wherever you go..

omarsk

simple answer my friend, because qatar is not respecting people, period...

tnaljam

i alwayse consider Qatar as my second homeland..im here since 5 yaers and never been offended. i really do love Qatar...wallah A7bek ya Qatar.

BeMyBro

Period eh?

Maybe you think you have more rights than you actually do

litteratuer

dezigner.....I have been here for a little over a year. I will be leaving a few months back home. If anybody asks me what is Qatari culture since I have lived here, I really have no answer apart from telling them that they drive big cars with which they bully others on the road and exploit people for labour and salaries.

I may be totally wrong, I have not interacted with a single qatari till date (I think). The reason being a.language, I dont speak arabic but I like to learn, b. attitude towards people coming from my country is not very friendly.
All my Qatari friends here in QL, please tell me what is Qatari culture
I am open minded person and would really like to learn, even if you want to meet me in person ..i am usually in corniche from 7 to 8 p.m..

BeMyBro

I totally understand and agree with you. Its true. but know this that Qataris with big cars don't only bully foreigners but also each others. they are usually teenagers.
We are a very closed society (between each other) based on tribalism. The thing is that the policy of Qatar is to make foreigners comfortable and at home more than advocating its culture...kinda like dubai. thats why you don't see much qataris engaging with foreigner much..they dont like the idea of changing themselves to make others comfortable so they avoid it all together...of course im speaking in general.

I really apologies for your experience in Qatar you seem like a pleasant person. I can only blame it on capitalism and greed.

Arien

Dezigner.. I am sure you have an idea about what and why??

I am sure this thread will go on untill QL exists and Unless Qataris dont change.

Sit back and read.
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xyned

Be well dressed. Conduct yourself in a dignified fashion. And bullseye. No one is a snot.

classism is present (if not as much prevalent as before). Racism...as-such... not all that common

xyned

Respect culture. Toe the line...

Otherwise...if it hurts your ego....Loose the chip off your shoulder

dancing12

may I finalize this matter to all of you in few Wards, PPl come to Qatar or any place else to work & collect money they live like Rats to maximum the amount collected so they hate the country, the life & the others, wise PPL who knew that money is for spent & enjoying of life they life happily in everywhere & they love life, country & others, so chose your life & don`t judge others

passutoba

Grateful for job and conditions, but hate:

1) utter lack of respect for the people BUILDING THIS COUNTRY. These stupid, discriminatory 'family days' at the soulless malls probably exclude the very people who helped build them. That's disgraceful.

2) Appalling wages paid to these workers and domestic staff who Qataris seem to expect as normal and treat with indifference. This is one of the richest countries in the world, yet no minimum wage..........absolutely disgraceful. This is a country essentially built on indentured labour, something most countries left behind with slavery.

3) drivers of white land cruisers

4) it's a theocracy, not as bad as the abhorrent Saudi Arabia, but not far off........it's the 21st century, but the legal system is stuck around 500 AD. As you can guess i'm not the biggest fan of sharia law..........

Friendd88

i love Qatar this is my homeland and as much precious as my own country...i am from Pakistan but i born here and thats why i Love QATAR...

Osman Yissah

Qatari laws are stupid in some cases and severely favors the natives over expats and in some cases you dont even get treated like human being.
so just because expatriates dont bow down to you doesnt mean that are not respected.

jarg0n

People that are claiming to "love" qatar obviously haven't visited many countries outside their own or are jaded against non-muslim countries because of their own religion.

I have been to many, many countries, including predominantly Arabic and Muslim locales, and I can honestly say that this place is the biggest ****hole that I have ever set foot in.

While here, I have witnessed:

1. The likes of modern-day slavery, prejudices and racism that were abandoned more than a hundred years ago in other developed nations

2. The reckless driving of locals which endanger not only themselves, but the people around them, young and old, blatantly disregarding the value of human life

3. Flatulence of monetary objects bordering in idolatry (that's a sin in multiple religions)

4. A first-hand account of a local Qatari snickering and joking at a dying Indian man lying right in front of me. Yep, that's right.

5. The horrifying and atrocious act of banning the Indians from the malls.

6. The list goes on and on... Oh well, Darwinism will prevail.

Wadi Arte

Whatever I had thought of writing has been written by someone or the other, not that its going to make a difference in the real world.

All I really wana say now is that expats, give these guys a break. Thier government is paying them for a reoson, how often do you see a Qatari & think he can handle something real? I used to fight with them on roads every single day, not anymore recently, you guys know why? Cuz I feel sorry for them. ALL the expats writing here in this forum are extremely ruthless, how can you bash a guy who can hardly type? A nation that can hardly 'actually' work? Dont you feel sorry for them? Trust me on this, have some patience, a couple of more years, thats it.

jarg0n

I'll respect a country and its people when they choose to respect humanity. As of now, these can't even be logically discussed in the same sentence.

The reason for the bad driving and irate behavior towards expats and OCN's is fear; they're threatened by social & financial replacement or loss of petty heritage. What does an animal do when it is in danger? It acts angry, irrational and lashes out at its opposition.

Osman Yissah

he made a point. in the last two posts. while qatar isnt a s+_thole, it has serious problems, that need to fixed. the worst thing is that some of the offenders claim to be muslims, yet there seem to be people, who claim that qataris are better than others, and are extreme misers even when these people earn milions of riyal a year.

look at the guy who bought 20 brand new jaguars at once, so that nobody could drive one while he was.

amber2007

in my opinion, some are pretending to be a qatari locals by wearing the same clothes that they have, sometimes i cannot identify who is qatari local to the one who pretends to be a qatari

kurtestinoso

Me, I respect Qatar as well as the nationals on it... but there's just a little something that has to be done... and that's their courteousness... That's "my opinion". It happens everywhere...

rezi.salima

the universal law says" give respect and get respect"
and after all if we give the respect to others sure they intreturn gona give us respect. this is the law this is the nature of human....
Stop complaining and workout on urself and i m sure there will b a big change..
ppl come here to earn money coz thats the only case they leave their family behind but if they r not treated properly by any mean then defininlty they will show some negative signs, and mr. deziner for ur kind information i agree qatari go outside countries n treat well but just try to work in a foreign country other than qatar and when someone will treat u bad then tell me wat will b ur reaction..so it is said that clap with both hands not with single hand..
thnx

Juemshuve

worried about the thousands of outlandish people

A scenario which exists everywhere. We must enhance through the friendly competition of cultures and be pride of our human identity above all identities.

medoha

Do you also respect other nationalities and their cultures when you go abroad?

Medoha left home country 17 years ago and worked in a few countries. Most of them people on the projects are local people. Here in Qatar, we can find many nationalities from all over the world. I enjoyed working with many nationalities and knew their cultures. Even we all come from the different cultures and religious background, I love working in this kind of environment. Interesting to know all humans beings from all over the world.

So sure I respect Qatar and local culture.

You yourself shall mix with all other nationalities to learn their cultures. OK this is culture issue.

Money issue - Of course, some people are roaming around the world to have better experience and advantage. Everyone needs MONEY to live. To live we need to work.

You are also working to live. So you get money. That is.

Give respect to others to get respect from others.

z_zied

Why they don`t go back home if they do not like the country and people here !!

xyned

Have you seen Cucumber, Carrots or any other vegetable. Toss em on the table and they remain as they were left. Humans on the other hand are nothing like vegetables. They think. So you do the background researchwork before you step in here. If you think their mollycoddling with good salary will be reflected in every other facet of living in qatar. Think again.....

Its a nice place. I would love to be a part of this culture. I would dearly love them (qataris) to inject effort and resources to securing sustainability for their way of living.

stress_in_babel

Alexa is right, when ever I see a woman wearing a questionable outfit, she turns out to be arabic!!! Strange but true...

If you could choose one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humour.

Moneera

Not all of them don't respect Qatar or Qataries but sadly some. The most bad scene which makes me soooo angry is when I see a Woman in public areas with indecent clothing such as Skirts above the knee. we dont favor such clothing and we dont give respect for such people. As for me, when I see a woman like this I, with a big confidence, do not stop looking her with contempt look. I think all who intend to come to Qatar should read about Qatar's culture and traditions. ppl who respect my country, for sure I will give them a big respect.

lusitano

I could think of many worse things severly damaging and not respecting Qatar, like driving dangerously or polluting the desert with garbage, etc, etc, etc...

The mischievousness can be in the mind of those who see it where it is not.

jarg0n

The bottom line is that Qataris don't respect its own country or residents, so why should others respect them?

Latest incident: My cube-mate's car got hit driving to work by a Qatari making an illegal left turn. The Qatari sped off, cutting between other vehicles and creating a dangerous situation with other motorists before he could catch up with him. Oh well, at least it's a company vehicle.

jarg0n

Moneera:

Sounds a little like jealousy to me.

blue-bell

I respect nearly all people and their cultures, especially if they respect there own. there are many locals who drink, take drugs, have sex before marriage (both genders), abuse and offend those who are here to help develop the country.

They drive so crazy they cause many accidents and take innocent lives, they abuse their own government systems, they threaten and use their nationality when they are in the wrong.

So please to gain respect you have to give it. I like Qatar as i like my own country but like others i come here to support my family back home.I am a part of the Arab culture but sometimes when i see and hear what goes on here by my own people its hurtful.

The majority of expats are respectful but there are a few who act as if they live in their own counrty which is not acceptable.

People serve many purposes here, teachers, engineers, labour, prostitutes, etc. this is what happens when you open your country and not develop it using the local people. i don't think i would ever see a national working in the construction industry as a labour as the work is hard and dirty and the hours are too long.

I generalise in what i say, as i have met some real decent nationals who reflect the religious and culure of this country as its important to them that this is not lost in the westernisation of Qatar.

Qatar itself is a nice place so respect it.

labeledas

Yeah i am western and it really bothers me me to see skanks dressed inappropriately out in public when they should know full well it's offensive. and on more than one occasion seeing people smoke pot and drink out in public.

I was in the bathroom at megamart one day and someone was puffing on a joint in one of the stalls. I like to drink and smoke pot occasionally but i refuse to do it here i am a guest in Qatar, and love it enough that i can do without till my yearly trip home,

mzama

should be enough.....
go where you want, but where are you going,
SIMPLY
follow the rules of the place.....

sunilG

Yea, exactly!! tis not the qataris that is the problem. it is the managers/directors of construction companies that misuse and mistreat the labourers. and the Labour ministry is seen doing nothing to bring these guys to book. Its mainly Egyptian and Indian manpower groups who backtrak on salaries and facilities once the labourers land in Qatar. When the oil prices were high, The Qataris did precious little for these poor labourers. Now lets see Qatar feeling the pinch since oil sells below 50 $ per barrel.
But I must agree that Qataris are far better thAN sAUDIS and Kuwaitis who r well known for their arrogance.

sunilG

I had a brief working period for 2 years when i stayed with my family. We really enjoyed the cool pace of life and generally the Qataris are educated and well behaved.
The only disgusting factor of Qatar is the labour laws, sponsorship and 2 year ban period which prevent free movement of professionals and other workers.
I feel in this regard, other arab countries are keeping in touch with 21st century realities while Qatar lags behind, and misusing the labour laws are mainly the expatriate managers rather than Qataris themselves !! these expat managers/owners of companies consider themselves as above law, and as half-Qataris :)
Since the labour department is doing nothing to catch the offenders, who will bell that cat ?

newkidontheblock

I love and respect Qatar but not as much as my country. But how can you love and respect a country if other people is not respecting the country especially those who is the host.

as the old saying goes...respect others as they respect you.

jayemz

does dezigner got the answer of his question???

Osman Yissah

I have no reason to genuinely hate this country, and so I dont.
Has the person who wrote this question seen it from some of expat's side?

You dont invite guests to your house and whip them. Morever you then dont expect that they should respect you afterwards. It may be your house, but remeber respect is not the same as just the same as submitting to the will of one person.

Respect is self motivated. It cannot be gained by inviting people with promises of nice salaries and benefits or coerced or forced onto people, by imposing slvavery laws, and other scary legistlation to keep people in check.

Osman Yissah

When I was in the last two years of my education, I changed to a school in Doha, (which will not mention out of respect) which looked okay externally, but was abysmal on the inside. You know what the repercussion of this were?

The students just treated the place like crap aswell. Lets just say the toilets were so bad, after visiting the washroom you may from now on, take your shoes off inside the house.

If the owner of this school gave crap, about it which, he doesnt, he should spend a portion of the profit, into making the place more welcoming to people who use it everyday.

Why buy a massive lcd t.v to make the reception look nice and hire security guards you dont need( Khalifa stadium), when you can install more waste bins( nicer housing for labourers), and repaint the school (Better transport system) etc.

Does this anolagy fit well with qatar?

Adam_N

Well I haven't made a dime yet, lol, but a job is what is on my mind so that I can get residency.
I like to think I've been respectful of local customs and such, so far.
Big culture shock for me really, as I lived in the centre of Brisbane, close to clubs and pubs. Now I sit at home here, bouncing about, wanting to do something.
I can't help looking at all the beautiful local gals, but I don't stare. For some reason Indians and other asians have this habbit of staring at me for some reason. :/

Anyway, I was happy to hear there is a Catholic church here (I'm Anglican though). Good that Qataris are accepting of other associations.

- Adam

engr2002

Give respect to get respect. Amen! I agree with your experience. I see it always. People jump lines and people get special treatment based on wasta and connection. It is so hard to do anything here without connection.

I advise this proud dude who see nothing to compain about here to go visit Abu Dhabi or Dubai. The grass is literally GREENER. Abu Dhabi for example is so GREEN and has so many beautiful parks and lovely landscape and CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN. Why is Doha so dirt-filled and streets are so messed up and not a single Ashghal project finish ontime and digging aimlessly everywhere and houses so poor etc. etc. etc.

Even Manama, Bahrain is much cleaner and tidier and has better services, schools, and infrastructure despite being oil and gas poor.

If you ask why expats come here, it is because your PR machine is so good people think they are coming to Heaven on Earth! They quit their job and pay huge expenses to move only to get surprised later.

jolena

Dezigner: "if the western ppl proud that they are more civilization than qataries or other why we dont see any effect from them,"

Have a couple of examples for you: Landcruisers, mobile phones, and fast food....

I see them everywhere in Doha! LOL

engr2002

How can we like people who are so arrogant they demand to be treated like kings while treating expats with disrespect.

Show me one country other than Qatar where everytime you drive you get Flashing landcruisers threatening to kill you unless you move out of their Qatari Way!!!

No respect for lines at all and littering everywhere.

Very rude children.

Very rude employees.

No caring about environmet, parks, etc.

Sponsorship aka Slavery

engr2002

Hashin!
Wow! What a great commentary.

The Qataris want expat respect without giving one and they want things handed to them on gold plates and they treat expats like greedy bloodsuckers even though they do work very hard without a Thank you

jerri

I understand your comment, as an American we have any number of people from other countries, some legally many illegally. Some abide by our customs and attempt to assimilate into our society, some do not. But we make an effort to respect each persons individual rights to be an individual.

Now I ask you, would you as a Qatari want people here to assimilate into your society, I think not. How difficult is it for someone to become a citizen here, it is not exactly open arms is it.

The second issue is in order to gain respect you have to give respect. There are any number of stories that we hear everyday about how Qataris drive or how they treat the Filipinos or the Indians or whatever. I am not sitting here in judgement, I am simply being as astute observer of the obvious.

Now with that said, I do agree that we should respect the norms and cultures of this country and I will do that. But please do understand that a friendly gesture will always win more compliance than a slap in the face. Just something to consider.

Eagley

Tagging to read later at home.

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qalove

I guess the people will respect the citizens of the country if those citizens respect them back. I would respect a person if this person was worth it, whatever the nationality. Qataris and foreigners is a love-hate but win-win relationship. We all benefit from it. Qataris get their country developed (lets be honest, they wouldn't manage on their own, and most of them know it), and foreigners make more money than back home (otherwise 99,99% of them wouldn't be in Qatar in the first place). So why all the hate? Yeah well it's tough to respect someone who jumps queues, drives like he's chasing yesterday's wind or behaves like King of the world. But hey, you find such people in every country. No nationality is immune. We have to coexist in the end!

Victory_278692

I read most of the comments and concluded that It is a 2 way bond.....respect cannot be asked for, this should be "inbuilt values" which comes to you from your Parents, people around you and country, which is rich with the cultural values. I agree one can't teach anybody (an adult) a Lesson on RESPECT.

Read Beepinoy's comment on previous page and to add from my experience in Doha. Qatar is growing very fast in recent years and flooded with expatriate population. We do need to show respect being a good Guest,

We are Guest here in a Foreign country as a good guest we should respect your host.

Again its a matter of 2 ways communication, being language is a barrier. People with knowledge of dual spoken language especially (Eng & ARABIC) has a better edge and repo with locals and influence easily.

As there are always a mix of different communities in every society, its same in Qatar.

Most of the asian migrate in Qatar due to various factor (different in individual case) , everybody love his/her own nation. It is very clear from Day one that You will get Citizenship in this part of world (GCC), so don't crib on this point.

Regarding discrimination of Laws for locals and expatriates is painful. All humans are same, RACISM is not accepted anywhere in the world.

To have harmony among all resident is possible with some extra effort to be made by NGO or social and family affairs departments to organise International cultural events in Qatar and invite all communities to represent.

I am sure such initiative will definitely bring all of us more close, regular communication and will break the ICE.

One need to be positive and look forward positively, as UAE has changed a lot in last decade, we will insha-allah see the similar or better changes in future.

Eagley

Very interesting thread. Thanks, dezigner and all who spoke their minds. I read all of the above comments. Agree with members like canadiangoldygirl, nadt, genesis, Victor Bhatt and others with a similarly balanced view.

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genesis

We are not all the same, don't really have the same mentality. In fact we don't even merry from each other

I agree with abuAmerican about some having the me better than you mentality...

This comes from being insecure...

When all they read about in newspapers, Qatar is achieving great financial returns from investments & having the highest GDP among other Arab Countries.Yet , some live on less than 10k

When writers like Nora Alsaad & others write in dailies , We should have more rights in Qatar Airways!, Foreigners must respect our culture!, Exit permit exist to protect Qataris interests!blaming road work & traffic for bad driving attitude!..I guess they would behave accordingly.

But do they really have the right.No they don't.

Powers to be are changing this country to the better.

However, no one is paying attention to the social impact it has on the locals. All of a sudden (in a decade to be exact). The population tripled, there is traffic everywhere, the women are demanding to drive & work and inflation that barely covers their bills & debts.

Did they ask for all that, no they did not

anonymous

By dezigner on Thu, 07/08/2008 - 11:19pm

I noticed many people do not respect local Qataries or they do not respect the country. They come here without having an idea about our culture and religion. All they think about is how much salary they will take.

We as a Qataries feel worried about the thousands of outlandish people and we try to be open with others but if they respect our culture and our land.

What do u think..?
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OK!they dont respect local coz they dont deserve it,and never they will deserve it.much better to respect animals coz if you trained them,they will behave like a lovely pet,but locals?never...ask yourself why and get back to me later...

anonymous

Nice ... another thread has been dug up from its grave.

motez1

I personally respect Qatari's, I've been to many Arab countries and Qatari's are the cleanest people amongst them. They never leave home with a bad smell, they are not obnoxious towards other people, and they offer help when needed. But hey thats just MY experience in Qatar.

MrsTimebandit

I think it's exceptionally arrogant to go and live in a country and not respect their culture and customs.

'Up there for thinking....down there for dancing.'

Gumby

There is no right to respect, it has to be earned again every day.

Well, many Qataris are very rude. I have often been cut in front of in line and when I protested I was told "I am Qatari." Qataris in general have low educational achievement and professional skills (not the elite, but the masses)-particularly the men and show little interest in bettering themselves.

Qataris have little tolerance for outsiders and it is often made clear to me that we are not wanted here and only tolerated because we are needed. If it is made clear that I am only here because I'm needed and not because I'm valued, why would I wish to become more involved in such a society? It is simple, Qataris use us and we use them, that is the nature of the relationship.

Qatar has made absolute tremendous achievements in the last 15 years, but the mindsets of many young Qataris seem to be becoming as distasteful and arrogant as that of many Saudis. I have great time and relationship for most Qataris over the age sixty, and for certain members of the cosmopolitan elite, but I consider spending time with many Qataris under the ago of about 40 a waste of time-particularly the men.

Gumby

Why should foreigners learn Arabic. In the very near future Hindi will be the majority language of Qatar. Qataris chose to make it this way. I am always amused when they complain about foreigners, yet realize that this is a decision that they have consciously made, to make themselves into a tiny minority in their own country.

carol2008

I think there is a huge difference here on this post. I believe most expats come here well aware of the culture and we do respect it and its people - if nothing else because we all come from countries where we accept and respect people that are different from us (I am not being blind about racist people but most people are not racists) anyway, what I think locals mistake by disrespect is that fact that expats/westerns usually dont agree with some of the culture aspects and local people are not used to criticism or questioning about anything in their lives.

Thats what they mistake by disrespect.

Olive

I think people are too used to expecting respect for everything. Nobody should automatically get respect, respect is earned. Frankly, while I do respect some Qatari's and some aspects of the culture, there are a great deal of things that I don't agree with or respect, and you can't make me respect them. To me respecting something means that you agree with it and have found something honourable or worthy of respect in it. Since I can't agree with much of the cultural things here the more proper term is I accept that it's not my place to change it and I tolerate it and adjust my life to suit it cause I'm in the minority.

motez1

Keep in mind that I am not Qatari nor am i an Arab. But I dont think its right to sit here and COMPLAIN about the country that pays your bills. Its very simple ladies and gentlemen... if you have a problem with Qatar then simply GET THE F OUT.... LEAVE! Its that easy! Keep in mind that many of you left YOUR country to find a job that QATAR provided for you and you sit here and bash this country like they did something horrible to you. Yes its not perfect, but then again NOTHING is perfect. If you dont like it and u think they are treating you bad then please save ur breath and get out so that another person that would LOVE to work in this country can take ur position and we will all be happy. That is all for now. Take care.

shawnt

i agree with abuamerican and climbhigh. i really try to understand this place, and its not a bad place to live, but sometimes its hard to hold ur tongue when u have arrogant gestures thrown at u and witness slavery here.

shawnt

some people here say that these people lack proper training of how to treat people. arrogance is not an absense of knowledge or an accident. these people r not stupid. they know who to mess with and who not to try to mess with. i think a lot here get angry knowing that most westerners r not gonna be pushed around and take thier crap

motez1

Shawnt... Excuse me? I am a westerner what is it your trying to say? How about we just let YOU run the whole country since you think you know everything!! I will say this again Shawnt... if you have a problem with Qatar then please pack your bags and get the out of here. Since there is "slavery" in Qatar.

marie_2

Respect begets respect...
My family and I respects your culture and tradition as well as enjoys living in your country. You cannot please everybody, and everybody cannot please all Qataris...
The inquiries regarding salary is to be expected since they wanted to know if the offered amount will be sufficient enough to cover their expenses here and still has extras for savings...afterall, everybody wasn't born with a golden spoon. And we should be compensated for working well for families that were left behind. :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

Qatariyah

Qatariyah...

You wrote: "People see a problem with wearing shorts here. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?! its freaking HOT here! You are too up-tight to wear shorts? Where do you learn its a taboo"

In answer I write: It's being religious that true & I repeat true Muslim women do not wear shorts. We are not against you wearing it, if it was in at least a respectful length (ex. knee-length). The least you could do is respecting the country you are currently living in by abiding with its society’s wishes & regulations.

motez1

Qatariyah...You are 100% correct. People need to remember that this country is a MUSLIM country with MUSLIM beliefs. And as for the VISITORS that sit here and complain... they should STOP complaining and RESPECT the countries traditions and way of life.

motez1

Qatariyah...You are 100% correct. People need to remember that this country is a MUSLIM country with MUSLIM beliefs. And as for the VISITORS that sit here and complain... they should STOP complaining and RESPECT the countries traditions and way of life.

winniethepooh

...In fairness to you Mr.dezigner seems you are different from your countrymen.but bahraini83 is right discrimination from qataris to expat are rampant their are SOME who even treated professional expat like their servant,SORRY to say but you cannot speak in behalf of other qataries coz we expat observed that SOME of your own people are those who dont respect your laws and culture....

shawnt

whatever motez1, other people here r giving their opinion, so will i. other people here r really dogging this place out and for some reason u chose me to personally reply too. well i say to u pack ur bags as well. who cares what u say. oh by the way, ur really representing ur country well with all those barbaric quotations about getting out this country. im pretty sure that the qataris r looking at u with acute scrutiny. to them ur just another number like the rest of us.

hamoudi01

IVE BEEN BLESSED 4 HAVIN U IN MY LYF, IF I HAD THE CHANCE I WUDN'T HESITATE 2 MAKE U MY WIFE.

motez1

Shawnt...Yes i am just another number like the rest of you... but i dont CRY about it, you baby. I will not pack my bags because i have nothing against the country... IF I DID have something against it then YES i will leave. You mentioned slavery and how unfair they treat you. So LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!! DO us allllllllll a favor and get the hell out!!!! Same goes for anyone else that has major problems with this country!!!!! Noone is forcing you to stay!

Nier

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law. we also respect fellow men and their cultures. I think those who know how to respect are those who were taught by their parents and those rude you see need to be educated. So let us built better generation by teaching the young ones good manners and right conduct and correct principles. Don't just complain but do something. The world is just a mirror. Hope you understand. God be with you.

smart-me

Very well said Genesis.. at least someone has spoken out of the box... respect to be respected....

shawnt

MOTEZ1. baby? whatever clown. u know what, do us all a favor and shut ur mouth. all ur doing is telling people to get the hell out. using all this profane language, but yet u want us and the qatari's to see u in this higher light. well y dont u get the hell out too. it's no different if i were to do the same. u would be doing us a favor as well. all i see is a kissbutt or something, talking about how they treat u from everybody else. well i guess ur just freaking special. i can see ur not really reading none of these blogs. ur just scimming through and then BLABBING about getting out this country. first of all i never said they treated me unfair, ive met good people here, but the fact remains that there r still people here who r practically building this place and still not being treated THE WAY U WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED. its a human thing and it would really hurt. remember im not the only one saying these things. and funny how there seems to be more negative things being said about this place than positive. hmmmnnn i love all who loves me, qatari, asian, white etc. i only despise idiots like u who are like an unwelcomed cancer that wont go away. oh well i guess every now and then we r forced to lower our standards by unwillingly acknowledging ur existence.

Me_1982

I LOVE THIS COUNTRY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ,,,, I AM NOT QATARI BUT LIVING HERE 12 YEARS MADE ME FEEL I AM BETWEEN THE PEOPLE I LIKE TO BE ,,,, I RESPECT THIS COUNTRY MORE THAN YOU Can imagine ,,,

motez1

Shawnt.... First of all you scumbag its not called "kissbutt"... second of all im not tryin to make anyone see me at a "higherlight" (what ever that means). What im tryin to say is that stop whining "WAAAAA!!!!! slavery!! they treat me so bad.. WAAAAAAA" all i said was if you hate it... GET THE HELL OUT!!!!! And didnt you say "but sometimes its hard to hold ur tongue when u have arrogant gestures thrown at u and witness slavery here." Stop trying to deny any of this.

ashwindoke

Yawn.....

I think I can write 20 - 25 posts and keep copy pasting them ...

its the same text every time....

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anonymous

Motez1, stop talking outta your ass man, what you want to live in a non complaining environment?
What if some people experienced things a bit outside the horizon of your good all happy experiences?.. it is like asking someone not to ever be happy! and who are you to give that ultimatum of either be thankful or leave... common dude, questioning leads to complaining leads to something bigger leads to change in most of the cases! don't you believe in change to the better?!

Arabs go to the west and do get ALL their rights and get to practice their traditions everywhere they go. foreigners should get the same legacy when they live in Arabic countries as well! It is only fair dude, why be picked on if u decide to have a drink on the weekend after busting your ass at work? Why some ass would have to stand in front of you in line just cause he is wearing a white dress?

I don't a give a flying *** of what you think of these things, but respect is EARNED not Claimed.

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motez1

tutor1... Calm down buddy... Relax... count to 10. Like I said before it isn't perfect here but then again NOWHERE is perfect. Your whining about having a drink in this country since the westerners give Arabs the same rights. Dude don't even go there. You haven't seen the bullshit middle easterns went through over there for you to even say that. So dont compare your alcohol and arab practicing their traditions. Second of all I am not DEFENDING Qatar like im obsessed with this place or anything, im that way with whatever country. When people sit and bitch about the USA i tell them the same thing... GET OUT if you dont like it. Noone wants to hear you whine. Theres plenty of ways for people to speak out but insulting the country isnt one of them. The fact of the matter is... all of you are here for WORK.. because YOUR country couldn't give you better pay... isn't that correct? So its not even loyalty for the country and you expect people to be loyal to you? Doesn't work like that my friend. Just accept it for what it is. And last but not least.. my experience in Qatar is not too bad but the only times I'VE BEEN DISRESPECTED wasn't by Qataris or should I say the ppl that wear "white dresses" it was the none arabs... The other group of people that over populate this country which im not going into because im not racist. And you don't see me bash and insult them.

anonymous

i actually am not a drinker, but that was just an example just like the do not eat in the day during Ramadan, just like do not wear shorts if you got boobs just like if you are a chick you can not swim or take a dip on the beach unless resort bla bla bla...( i, myself can live with all these restrictions, but do they make complete sense to you?, n'tyou think they will change in 20 years? ) all i am saying, it is 2010!!!.. two thousand and ten years dude... IN US and Europe there are probably more mosques than churches now ;), The world is becoming one mate, time for people to accept that idea, each mind their business, and stop the you are in my country bullshit... And about winning, How do you want people to express their dislikes? by farting? ... hehe like comon, i'm sure you know better.
I do know about middle eastern's struggles cuz i am one. Let's just not see things from one dimension dude, and Again, It is only complaining and winning that make things change to better...(politics, ur day to day life, science, etc )

cheers, no hard feelings man

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shawnt

motez1, SCUMBAG,chump please, i see ur still mouthing off to anyone and everyone. ur still missing the point. still saying that i have claimed to be enslaved. TUTOR1 MY MAN . im with u. this punk ass motez just talking trash. his candle is burning out. but u know what man, after watching the news and the internet about HAITI, motez no longers matters to me, as if he ever did lol, but anyway like i was saying, after watching what those people r going through right now, all that pain, grief, thousands upon thousands of lossed loved ones, my heart is really greiving for those people, damn near brought tears to my eyes. and we're all here arguing over pretty much a worthless subject man. my heart pours to haiti right now. so please let us remember the more precious and important things life.

motez1

shawnt...the funny thing is u piece of trash is that you wont dare to say any of this to my face.... so stick to your keyboard and your online muscles you low life butt pirate.

qalove

What's to respect??? People who think themselves superior and look down on absolutely everyone else? People who think everyone else is out there to get their money? I mean hello, the money in many cases is paid by international companies, NOT Qataris. I don't know why they go on about massive salaries in Qatar, if these salaries are the only reason international companies can entice their people to move to this country in the first place? There is a reason salaries are high - and that's not because life in Qatar is so beautiful. It's because it is a third world country with poor legal system, no human rights, no basic rights for foreigners (especially Asians), tough working conditions and strict Muslim regulations. Qatar is not a place people would choose if the salaries there were on par with those in the rest of the world, so what exactly is the problem with people asking about their salaries? That's the only thing that makes them come to Qatar in the first place.

Stone Cold

No body hates or have a disrespect for Qatar. Thats the reason why we are all here in the first place - To be hired and get paid by the wealthy host. For those who are not willing to be appreciative of all the benefits they are getting by working in Qatar, they surly are not welcomed to stay in Qatar. Its quite a pity that like everywhere on the Internet, there are bound to be a small number of people who make comments that are offensive. Probably given a few who have crossed the cultural line. We are all for freedom of expression but that does not mean you cross boundaries and heap insults on qatar. Historically-based Western notions of superiority lead to cultural tensions between Qatari nationals and skilled foreign workers. Sometimes you need an honest discussion but not a nasty, provocative, insensitive manner. Complaining is the easiest thing to do and you can't draw conclusions based on a few incidental experiences. If you don't like it here and you want to see a change, then do something constructive to help address the issues that need to be dealt with in this society. Its like the saying goes, Respect Qatar, and for those who don't, knows where the airport is.

edifis

Who is not respecting Qatari? Give me his number.

Sun Fun Sea

True is that Qatar still don't respect international law regarding modern slavery with Indian and other nationality poor people.
Also at my work I have more then 100 Indian people who get 600 QAR salary monthly and bad food...and Im from Europe and they pay me 50.000 QAR !!! Where is the respect!!! please don't speak about respect and equal law.
REad forum regarding traffic violations of Qatari people.
When they pay this bills I will pay mine. I'm happy that I don't have it now. But trust me if I get it I will pay it to respect law and social life.

Is this respect of Qatar companies. Why I mention Qatari company !!!

Obviously law order 51 % must be Qatar owner. And where is the respect of International business law?

Please take a walk, take a drive, involve in some primitive behavior of young Qatrian boys like I have few days ago...
and then start speaking about respect.

I have driver license more then 26 years and I fall down 2 times until someone dont tell me pay to Sudan man and they give you driver license and I pay...
what will be if I go to police and say corruption? Nothing they kick me out of Qatar and then? I call Osama? No.

I stay, live and work in so many countries that number 50 will be small...and I know one basic rule:
in any country is good and bad people.
Respectful and primitive.

True in Qatar is that more then 60 % of any contacts is humiliate and not respectful from locals...

I was working 2 years ago here and I come back.
Just for one reason. SALARY and work.

NO this money that I will live or buy house here.
Social life, social behavior of Qatar is dead.

My opinion so sorry.

shawnt

motez, whatever, ur the one flexing ur muscles on line. didnt u just read anything i said about haiti. A REAL ISSUE. Like i said this is a worthless subject. at least we're all not going the crap they r right now. u see man im trying to be peaceful right now.but look here man, im not scared of u either, would i say it to ur face? u bet i would, we would battle it out, so dont think u put fear in me, but y go there, what would it accomplish? nothing, hey look man im being real cool, i know ur american, its just that obvious. so im out. i wish u wealth and good health

motez1

send me a personal messege... we should go out and get some coffee... and talk about these issues.

PuLover

Oh , there was Wajed Qerqer in this subject !!

could anyone give us the Conclusion ؟؟

Sun Fun Sea

I stay and work in more then 30 different countries all around the globe.

What is characteristics for all countries who get money fast and try to develop his nation is retard in mental look at western culture, behaviors, way of living, clothing ect...and of course social life.

Mentality of some people you cant change in 5 or 10 years but just whit time, long long time...more then 50 or even 100 years if this is accepted from local people...

And Qatar is the same...10 years ago Qatar was living how?

Normal respectfully national traditional way...
and now? all this development so quick is bring also one most dangerous things in life.

you know what I mean.

Bye.

Sun Fun Sea

I stay and work in more then 30 different countries all around the globe.

What is characteristics for all countries who get money fast and try to develop his nation is retard in mental look at western culture, behaviors, way of living, clothing ect...and of course social life.

Mentality of some people you cant change in 5 or 10 years but just whit time, long long time...more then 50 or even 100 years if this is accepted from local people...

And Qatar is the same...10 years ago Qatar was living how?

Normal respectfully national traditional way...
and now? all this development so quick is bring also one most dangerous things in life.

you know what I mean.

Bye.

Qataria78

I hate it when the main subject concerns my country and what i really hate is when people live in it and are not happy , so why bother your self by staying if you werent happy in the first place. We are Qataris and proud of it and please dizgner dont say that many dont respect our culture and traditions and think about the salary ( that is totally wrong ) , i have met alot of people and herd that people before coming into qatar try their best to know the culture and religion before setting a foot in Qatar . If some dont respect our culture and religion then its their upbringing was wrong in the first place because they werent brought up in the right way to respect others . just close the subject please coz its hurtfull for me and others to see people write something about Qatar which is not true . Qatar and Qatari people will always welcome others into the country , its a safe and wonderful place to be in and will always be .

thanks

bye

moshod

I respect Qatar and have been working harmoniously with my Qatari colleagues

pranzer

Im still reading from page 1 .

I respect Qatar and Qatari's, even though I don't have Qatari friends.

Sun Fun Sea

I stay 5 days in Dubai and when I come back to Doha immediately at airport I feel negative energy, primitive behaviors, rude people, crazy drivers and I come home stressed...
after so nice relax in Dubai.

I understand that here is more then 100 different nationality's but what is too much is too much.

In Dubai I feel more respect, more gentle people and never never feel one negative thing...Ye sits just 5 days but this is true.

At airport I will not allow people who don't have any basic culture, any minimum behaviors in social environment to enter country before they didn't make at least few days course of nice, respect behavior at town.

I know you cant change primitive peasant who never see town, never have any connections with city people but at least minimum must be...MUST BE MINIMUM SOCIAL CULTURE>

So sorry nothing personal or against any one but I feel sick of Qatar and I leave this country who going to collapse in primitive behaviors...

p.s. at airport more then 100 people waiting hour or more to enter...then come some Qatari and pass at all line of course untill this things happen Qatar is slavery country. WHy he dont wont to wait like others?
He call someone and pick them out from line. NO WAY.
Untill is like this Duck of Qatar and respect.

s_isale

Almost all the countries have separate immigration counters for their own nationals.

yllek

So would you be willing to be a housemaid and be paid poorly

parksbrian

That's not true Qatar is one of the most beautiful country I ever spent.I am truly respectful for the culture and heritage of Qatar but despites of this there are still qataries who doesnt respect some outlandish people.Respect is the only way to do that.

xyned

Don't understand why you are putting the blame on 'Shariah'. It does not dictate everything.

I think they should enforce minimum wage. Businesses are pocketing money from inflation. I say it cant get worser with standardization of wages. At some point businesses will have to suck up cost rather than passing it to consumer.

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