Memorial stand by Qatari's for UK man in Doha

angelwings
By angelwings

It is a terribly tragedy whenever anyone dies needlessly.

But if any of you were around when John, the Producer of the Shakespeare play in the Doha Theatre, was killed during a suicide bombing a couple of years back, then you'll remember that many Qatari people stood for over an hour at a Memorial on the very ground used by the Bomber. It may be nice to show our solidarity and sympathy for this young Qatari boy in the same way. Perhaps on the Corniche, or somewhere where a gathering can take place.

Certainly as a Brit I am very saddened that anyone from this country going to the UK - trusting that all is civilised and safe - is abused, and in this instance died, however it came about.

If anyone has similar feelings and would like to show their sympathy and condolences toward the family, perhaps we can name a place and time.
Angelwings

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By SPEED• 12 years 7 months ago.
SPEED

please check the date when the thread was created ;-)

By roniben• 12 years 7 months ago.
roniben

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By roniben• 12 years 7 months ago.
roniben

Please count me in. Sounds good to me

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By roddinblack• 13 years 1 month ago.
roddinblack

i'll be very happy to join in here david Abrahams and just whatever the things happening just keep them to the point.

By anonymous• 13 years 4 months ago.
anonymous

Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.

By hankjmatts• 13 years 4 months ago.
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hankjmatts

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By hankjmatt• 13 years 6 months ago.
hankjmatt

Was part of a fracas which occurred in the UK. It seems he fell and fatally hit his head on the kerb during an incident which could have easily have happened on a pool table in The Ramada, here. I don't think this is quite dll the same as 'John' of the Doha Players being involved in a purposeful explosion of the Playhouse.

By anonymous• 13 years 7 months ago.
anonymous

I am really sad that a Qatari lad was killed in England.

It was a needless attack. It was a racist attack but the idiot that killed him did not know the difference between, Indian, Pakistani or Arab. This total moron just saw a brown face and reacted. What a tosser.

However. Look at all the 'others' that have been killed ALL OVER THE WORLD. We as Brits are being over sensitive to what happened.

I am really sorry this much loved child was killed. I regret it happened, obviously not as much his parents. However, as a parent I could empathize.

How many times does Qatar hold a special day for those that have been killed/murdered/committed suicide in building this country?

There is none.

So as much as I feel for this family, and I do. Let’s look to what they allow over here

By qatarlivingc• 13 years 7 months ago.
qatarlivingc

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By harris1• 13 years 7 months ago.
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harris1

Good to know you support Mani.. shame you can't be there. Where are you going to be? Can you wear something yellow.i know its a lil bit shame but i m supporting.. my office timings are so tough tht i will not be able to make but i will try my best to pass through there and yes i m already wearing Yellow dress

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By angelwings• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
angelwings

one of the drawbacks of this kind of thing...

Good to know you're there with your support though Mani.

I remain as ever,

Angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By mani.250• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
mani.250

angel wings are they talking abt u.. Gwen Newnham ..

wel angel i know its a lil bit shame but i m supporting.. my office timings are so tough tht i will not be able to make but i will try my best to pass through there and yes i m already wearing Yellow dress to support the day & the event

By angelwings• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
angelwings

Bad Headlines in Gulf Times...

The unfortunate use of the word 'murdered' in today's Gulf Times is very sad - in that the newspapers would capitilise on such an event to add provocation to the issue. I totally disassociate myself from this headline... and feel it is a tacky way of selling newspapers.

It won't put me off showing my sympathy for the family however, or the need to stand agains this sensless behaviour.

Good to know you support Mani.. shame you can't be there. Where are you going to be? Can you wear something yellow.. put a yellow flower on your desk??

Angelwings.

G.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By mani.250• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
mani.250

i don't think so this have been done before the thing we r going to do.. so the wal will begin from corniche.. thtz nice and angel wings good tht u have arranged all the things... well i m feeling very sad to miss this historical day.. :'(

By angelwings• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
Rating: 2/5
angelwings

We will begin the walk from the Sheraton end of the corniche, and slowly walk along towards the souk area. Of course we're only there for 15 mins officially, so we won't be going too far along.

The Father and family of Mohammed Majed will be there, so a good showing will be great.

See you (with your YELLOW).

Angelwings.

By angelwings• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
angelwings

Don't forget to sms folk and email the details to as many people as possible.

We can also tie yellow ribbons from car aerials too... anything to show a united front against this kind of thing.

A.W.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By mani.250• 14 years 3 weeks ago.
mani.250

Ok angel wings.. Good luck 2 all of those who will be there but wht abt the family member of tht guy... they have to be there as this rally or walk is for him & for violence.

By angelwings• 14 years 4 weeks ago.
angelwings

We will go on the Monday, exactly one week after the original stand made in the UK.

Because of the Ramadan timings, and the heat, it seems best to arrange for a stand at 4.45 until 5.00pm. Thus allowing those who need to leave quickly for the Iftar period time to drive back home again. There will be no particular time of silence, except during the 15 minute period mentioned above.

We will signify our agreement to stand against this kind of meaningless violence, and show our solidarity with the family of the Qatari Boy.

To be recognised, we will BRING SOMETHING YELLOW. It can be a flower, a balloon, an armband, or even an item of clothing, anything that will distinguish the stand.

There is not going to be any formal spot for meeting, other than on the actual Corniche itself, that way we don't have to wait (forever) for permits etc. We will not be forming a 'crowd' in any particular place, so a permit will not be required. Only that we will quietly walk or stand on the Corniche area, with our YELLOW distinguishing marker.

By angelwings• 14 years 4 weeks ago.
angelwings

As we haven't heard back from the Officials, it may be that we will do it on Monday, one week after the original stand in UK.

Bearing in mind that lots of families won't want to travel during the crazy post iftar traffic... I'd like to know when you were thinking

The thing about doing it at around 4.45 to 5.00pm is that there is no traffic to contend with, and that is a big plus for that time of day.

Angelwings.

By mani.250• 14 years 1 month ago.
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mani.250

well as u said angel wings that many ppl will turn up so wht u suggest instead of khaima or majlis we can meet in the open perking as on the back side of museum or parking in front of sheraton... in front of of sheraton yes its a huge space.. but forget the flowers i don't think ministry wil approve.. we can meet the families, show condolence, silence for 5 min then back 2 home but the time so suggest... 5 o clock then i think i will miss this thing.. anyhow if it would be in the evning much better...

By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
amnesia

@speed, yep, I'm doing my best to sort this out :)

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By brutus_ceasar• 14 years 1 month ago.
brutus_ceasar

I'm so there.. just state the date and time.

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By SPEED• 14 years 1 month ago.
SPEED

about 'whoami' yes i have to acknowledge your 'ILQ' support to QLVG always... sorry for the confusions with amnesia ;-) ...

Ok i will leave the permission thing with you to handle. Once permission is ready let me know I will arrange QLVG members to come and support the cause.

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By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
angelwings

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
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angelwings

..but I worry that too many people will turn up, and I'd rather be prepared for any eventuality, and have the room/area/space to deal with it. Which is why a large outside area seemed better.

It may be better to start at 5pm, and finish by 5.15 to make sure everyone can get home who needs to prepare for Iftar. Of course everyone will be there earlier than the 5pm start probably, as parking, walking to and from cars etc, as you say, will take time. But we'll see what feedback we get from the ministry anyway, and take it from there.

Thanks for the input.

Angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By mani.250• 14 years 1 month ago.
Rating: 4/5
mani.250

wel as angel wings u said abt the flowers, we need to get approval from ministry as where to put? wil it be legal? wel as i know the tradition it will be better to arrange a khaima or majlis or meet in 1 place to keep 5 min silence & also the timings u said may be is not suitable, Why? bcoz u r saying 5:30 will be finish & 5:53 is opening of fast, if u will go out from tht place after meeting every 1 then it will take almost 5-10 min... so wht u suggest? wel better to keep it in evening and better to arrange majlis or khaiyma...

By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
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amnesia

will send yuo a pm Angel wings.

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By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
angelwings

... then we will choose a location to simply leave flowers, as many folks would appreciate doing this also. We will see which works out best. Certainly leaving flowers at a location seems to have crossed all frontiers and culteral boundaries, and is just as good a way to say 'we sympathise, and are united against this kind of violence' regardless of the outcome, accidental or otherwise. So hang in folks, we will have some directions very soon.

Angelwings

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
amnesia

@Speed, trust me it's not about the attention, it's about being recognized for good deeds :)

Especially when one group get's recognized and one doesn't. We're a team are we not? Its all about encouraging others to join in too :)

ILQ itself also participates in various charitable events. Especially a monthly 'help the labourers' run. I appreciate all the ILQ members that help out and continue to help out.

I am 'whoami' btw lol, the guy you met and also told the newspapers not to mention me :P It was a username making fun of amnesia. who-am-i ---> someone who forgot ---> amnesia lol Anyway, we made two runs during the charity we jointly participated in with you and acknowledged QL 100%

Anyway, Angelwings gave me a call. I've already spoke to the Ministry of Interior who said that they need a formal letter in writing.

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By jauntie• 14 years 1 month ago.
jauntie

was part of a fracas which occurred in the UK. It seems he fell and fatally hit his head on the kerb during an incident which could have easily have happened on a pool table in The Ramada, here.

I don't think this is quite the same as 'John' of the Doha Players being involved in a purposeful explosion of the Playhouse.

I have every sympathy with the young man's family but I don't feel that more is required than perhaps, as amnesia and possibly Oryx suggested, a bouquet of flowers from a token few to be floated out to sea.

I agree with yaghazali - discreet, yet meaningful.

Any large gathering I feel would be inappropriate.

Just IMHO

By alsboy• 14 years 1 month ago.
alsboy

I AM IN... Now, this is wot v need 2 do. Not cos which country or wot color his/her skin is, but 4 tht child who cudn't c tomorrow...

By yaghazali• 14 years 1 month ago.
yaghazali

I agree that a period of silence/prayer would be more significant for the family than flowers.

But whatever you end up doing, just keep it simple and sincere. The most important part of all this is the message you convey.

And regardless of whether the event gets press coverage...at least you'll have done a good thing. Something meaningful and loving in the face of the senselessness that caused this kid's death.

My condolences to his family and best wishes to everyone organizing the memorial. Hope it goes well. :)

By anonymous• 14 years 1 month ago.
anonymous

Its not just meaning English or welsh...

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By anonymous• 14 years 1 month ago.
anonymous

mmmmm lol I'd have to say Irish, I could get away with that having a typical Irish name!

By anonymous• 14 years 1 month ago.
anonymous

Gawd no! I would be too mortified to admit I was British!

By britexpat• 14 years 1 month ago.
britexpat

Excellent.. I presume you meant 6th September..

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
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angelwings

If all the permissions go thru, we will arrange to meet at 5pm Saturday 6th August, on the land (yet to be confirmed): And at exactly 5.25 until 5.30pm, we will hold 5 minutes silence. We will disperse at 5.35pm.

For those fasting, there will then be time to return to their homes for the breaking of the fast, prior to the guns going off at around 6pm.

We will update on any new developement, and inform you via text/emails with possible media coverage/information as well.

The reason for this stand is as quoted from andysand - "I found that over the years the situation has got worse and there are less and less family values. The law must put an end to people being able to take someones life as part of their night out ritual".

Thanks,

angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By mani.250• 14 years 1 month ago.
mani.250

i read all the threads and as far as i know Qatar( as i m here from my grand father days and born here) it would be difficult to arrange meeting in museum or sheraton as angel wings said but as qatar tradition, if they need to discuss anything they are giving priority to meet place as majlis aur put khaima. wht we can do is we can arrange for the khaima and invite his family members and there we can have 2-3 minute silence and pray for him, instead of giving flowers, cards etc... better to do this...

By someonenew• 14 years 1 month ago.
someonenew

Although I wont be able to attend I would like to extend my condolences to his family and friends. And i think its a great idea angelwings.

I dream of a better tomorrow where Chickens can cross the Road without having their motives questioned - Unknown

By SPEED• 14 years 1 month ago.
SPEED

the platform of Qatarliving organize all such volunteer activities...

Just to clear you one doubt that WE (QLVG) never do any volunteer work with the intention to attract media attention or for any kind of publicity.

I myself was surprised when we saw media taking our pictures and interviewing our QLVG members ...

There are so many small volunteer activities we do on QL and outside QL but we never ever tell on QL forum because I believe that doing such thing with the intention of getting publicity will not serve the purpose in the eye of Allah(GOD).

Also I don't remember if I have met you before? I remember 'WHOAMI' who I met during our HBK campaign..

Hope this is clear to you and we are always thankful for supporting QL and QLVG in particular :-)

Coming to the point, lets meet along with Anglewings and other QLVG members at any of the coffee shop and kick start this campaign, ofcourse in this case we will seek media attention for the public awareness once we agree on Venue ....

Anglewings: I got your PM and I am working on it :-)

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By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
amnesia

lol Angel, we wouldn't need a tooth, I was explaining the process but we could use a similar process perhaps with flowers to signify the same thing.

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By andysand• 14 years 1 month ago.
andysand

Count me in. U..K has become a very unruly place. Having lived in London for 14 years after leaving my native Scotland I found that over the years the situation has got worse and there are less and less family values. The law must put an end to people being able to take someones life as part of their night out ritual. They must put people away for a very long time if they carry out these thuggish deeds. This poor boy died because the law in U.K. turns a blind eye to unrully behavior and its now time to stop it. A very good idea to hold a few minutes silence. A bit ashamed to be Brittish these days when things like this happen. My thoughts to the family.

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
angelwings

I still feel the solidarity gathering would be good, rather than the 'bunch of flowers' - nice idea Oryx, but I think this is bigger perhaps. It is sending out more than just a message of sympathy to the family, a gathering is an international thing, crossing borders and boundaries, whether flowers are left, or baskets of leaves...as Amnesia said, we want the family to see that we're with them, and not trying to ignore the situation. ? If we do the Basket of leaves, I'm not sure where we get the tooth from Amnesia? That's not meant to be flippant by the way.

Anyway, its time to be one, and share the pain.

Will find out what I can anyway re family approval - as will Amnesia.

Weekend would be best, as many families may like to participate, and school won't be a problem then. Saturday seems best as Friday will have lots of prayers anyway at the various Mosques no doubt.

Angelwings

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By Oryx• 14 years 1 month ago.
Oryx

What I wrote/meant (cant remember)

.. only if the family were ok with us doing a public thing if not send private condolences....

if you know the family what is your input angelwings?

By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
amnesia

I dont see why this can't be done on the weekend, although I'd prefer it on Saturday, for the sole reason that i'd like to participate as well and I have to visit my mother in Bahrain and I'll be back on that day.

As mentioned the family is my old family's neighbour. Back in the day when we lived in a small village area.

Oryx was suggesting that we just get a bunch of flowers and hand it over to the family .

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By adey• 14 years 1 month ago.
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adey

"Two minutes silence will be held in Hastings on Monday in memory of Qatari student Mohamed al-Majed.

Council officials in the British town – where 16-year-old Mohamed was fatally injured a week ago – said the commemoration would take place outside a major shopping centre at 11am.

A spokeswoman confirmed that community leaders, council officials, councillors and members of the police would attend the gathering to remember the vibrant young teenager who lost his life following a “racist” altercation with a group of local youths.

Councillor Peter Pragnell, leader of Hastings Borough Council said: “We would like as many people as possible to come along to remember Mohamed and also to send out a powerful message, not only to the people who did this, but to his family and friends to show them the people in Hastings will not accept this."

I know it's short notice but it would a stance of solidarity to coordinate the timings.

Just an idea.

”"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

By t_coffee_or_me• 14 years 1 month ago.
t_coffee_or_me

I am for it lets make it happen

 

 

 

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By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
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angelwings

We can just send a 'text fwd' to everyone to pass onto friends/family to make this known. I know it will draw a good number of people, and near the Diwan would be a good place to be.

Thanks,

Angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
angelwings

...that it has joint effort mentioned in any coverage with the Papers or anyone else involved. We stand as one on this, and that is that we are with the boy's family, and the boy himself. I know members of the family, after all this is a very small country, and it is important to show we support them in their grief.

This is a bit close to home for me, as I also have my mother-in-law living in Hastings area!!...

Can we have this in motion by the weekend.

To msanonymous... thanks for your condolences, I'm sure they will be read, and appreciated.

Thanks,

Angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By msanonymous• 14 years 1 month ago.
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msanonymous

I have been reading the other news thread about this and it was a shame that before thinking of how to pay respects to the deceased, much speculation and animosity has arose. I am very glad that someone has thought of this. It is very sad that I cannot go to this gathering you are planning, but I would like to extend my condolences to the family and friends of Mohamed al-Majed.

No matter who you are, YOU deserve to Live.

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By amnesia• 14 years 1 month ago.
amnesia

Here's a reply to an email I was sent from Oryx asking if I had any ideas to help out.

There are two things that could be done and I have a great idea.

Do you know that little bit of land on the corniche which sticks out? Sometimes they pitch a tent on there and do the Al Kass discussion? Its close to the Diwan area. That would be a very good place to gather. And even then, after gathing, leaving a token there. I can obtain permission if you like. I really enjoy helping out, but so far in two occassions when I've helped ILQ members have, although the purpose is to help, they weren't acknowledged, not even in the papers as they acknowledged QL. We need to make it clear that we're all a team.

Anyway, in Qatar we have an old tradition of creating a small basket from leaves and putting our tooth in it and letting it float out to see. We believe you are sending a part of yourself back to nature. Perhaps you could do something similar to that. Now our dear Qatari boy is going back to nature and back to God.

Perhaps meet up at that point, have a few banners noting what is going on, leave some flowers on that area (it would have to be in a box or something or else they'll blow away), have a moment of silence, and end it.

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By SPEED• 14 years 1 month ago.
SPEED

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By steve_and_kim• 14 years 1 month ago.
steve_and_kim

i am utterly disgusted about the situation.

I'll be there

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
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angelwings

OK. First we need to contact the authorities to make sure its not going to be a problem or breaking any laws, but if we suggested that we gathered on the Corniche perhaps at the Sheraton end where the grassy park is, or over towards the Airport area, on the ground opposite the Port area, where the grassy verge is by the Museum - perhaps that would be big enough. But maybe we've got to see what the authorities suggest. He did live over by the airport. I'll speak to one of his extended family members.

Anyone got contacts with the ministries, and speaks arabic?

Angelwings.

If the grass is greener on the other side, its sure the water bill is higher !

By Dracula• 14 years 1 month ago.
Rating: 3/5
Dracula

good ideea

i am in.

By Oryx• 14 years 1 month ago.
Oryx

you know i was just out doing my exercises and thinking the same thing!

Please count me in.

By angelwings• 14 years 1 month ago.
angelwings

I'd be happier copying what the qatari's did for John, when they signalled their disapproval of the horrific act, and stood in sympathy for his family and friends.

By QT• 14 years 1 month ago.
QT

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By britexpat• 14 years 1 month ago.
Rating: 4/5
britexpat

I will be happy to join - If the authorities here allow it.

Why not make a giant card instead or a wreath of flowers and we can meet to sign it. Then you can send it to the family,,

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