Warning..man exposing himself
I wanted to let everyone know about what happened to me..I was in a busy road in an area behind KFC opposite Ahli hospital and I was sitting in my car waiting for my husband for a couple of minutes.I noticed a man in his mid twenties staring into the car from opposite,I avoided looking at him and was in conversation on my mobile,a few seconds later I realised he was now next to my window and was exposing himself and tried to open the door..Thank God the car was locked!!! I screamed and was banging on the window for him to go away and only did when there was a passerby.
I gave a description to the police and unfortunately no street cameras.
I wanted to let everyone know and to advise that EVERYONE LOCK THEIR DOORS when parked!
became GlobalLiving.com... and not QatarLiving.com...
What some people seem to forget is that we are living in Qatar, so the threads on here are based on Qatar.... what happens here, not anywhere else in the world....
Sag... you don't get out much, do you? 'Thank God such perversion is void in this culture. And what about that tonnes of porn produced in west to feed perverts'
What NON perverts would you be talking about? would those be the ones in traditional (not specifically local traditional clothing) that follow a woman around in their vehicle... or accost them on the streets and in parking lots? Would those be the ones that sit in their cars and R/A in the same traditional dress and make disgusting gestures with their mobiles phones... (one made eye contact with me and licked his phone - ewwww)
Would those be the NON perverts again in traditional dress (again nothing specific) that go around giving their mobile numbers to other men, in the hopes they will get some action....
No Sag, your society is not perverted... not in the least...
and just so you know Sag.... my method of dress is precisely Chelsea's - Jeans and T-shirt and normall smelling like animals... so I definately don't dress to provoke anyone.... but I seem to attract the weird ones...
Ohhhh,... and I am almost sure I read somewhere that Saudi is probably one of the biggest 'consumers' of porn in the world.... will find that link and get back to you!!!!
We both agree on men's self control part.Indecent clothing or too much meat exposure will make women more vulnerable to such pervs, clothing is a contributing factor here, pers are the issue, that's my opinion.
Btw we had a case at work when a lady filed a sex harassment claim against another co worker.The HR manger (another lady) asked her to stop exposing her thongs collection first then the committee may consider her case more seriously !
You don't leave your front gate open and then complain about burglary, right ? a crook may still break in, but you won't be blamed for leaving the gate open.
Hardly anything :)
"Perverts are a dime a dozen in all cultures .."
You admit it so learn to deal with the fact yourself as you don't want to take the advice or learn from the culture you currently live in. All women in this culture take precautions not to stimulate the perversive human nature of men. A saying goes that the most repeated task in a traditional indian woman's routine is that of fixing her saree part that covers her chest and head. I don't know if those who formed these rules were perverts.
And lo I read somewhere about a white collar perversion. A woman from UK admitted having masterbated her son to console him! Thank God such perversion is void in this culture. And what about that tonnes of porn produced in west to feed perverts?
What do Czech girls wear during the summer?
Read today's newspaper about child abuse. Then extrapolate it to women. Children are very vulnerable, women are vulnerable because of culture and society here. (Don't ask, Don't tell)
Perverts are a dime a dozen in all cultures - instead of blaming dress (what do you blame paedophilia on - how children dress?) blame the pervert who can't keep it in his pants.
The numbers of reported sexual harassments and rape cases in the Czech republic increase in summer time versus winter , despite the late sunset in summer.
The head of Prague's police department (a lady) has claimed that due to some women's dress code in summer,it may provokes and send green signals to predators to harass and even rape those ladies.
Another example I think it was Mexico(not sure) where females have called for a separate public transportation service due to the constant sexual harassment they've encountered. I think they have won their case and got a separate public transportation lines for females only. So pervs are everywhere and not in a particular culture or society, I bet you if someone else had seen this guy flashing himself, probably he would end up in HMC by now. Modesty can't prevent such particular cases , but can help prevent other cases.
Perversion/harassment isn't an acceptable behaviour even if the female victims were naked, men need to control themselves more, but women have to be careful as well. You can't defy basic instincts.
It's all a matter of opinion and is different in every case. Women in abayas are just at risk of being followed, flashed or accosted.
There are some stunning arabic women walking round with beautifully made up faces and when they walk you can see their skyscraper high heels and skinny jeans. With some of the beautifully embroidered abayas, they can look really attractive! I think they would be MORE at risk then someone like me after a shift at the farm in ripped jeans and a t-shirt!
An abaya isn't an armoured shield - if anything I personally think it makes them look more vulnerable. There's a certain innocence in being so modest and a lot look like they wouldn't be able to fight back if anyone tried anything on with them. That's just a personal opinion though.
Yes, john that's true in this culture. women with abaya are protected and those without are at risk. You have to live with that risk to stay in this culture that nurtures perversion due to lack of education, opportunities, backwardness,etc. Only addressing these root realities will correct the societies.
This is why I hate westerners because whenever they point at something bad they aim to show it something peculiar of this culture which they boast themselves free of without understanding the cultural adherence that paves way for such behaviour. And those who belong to this culture, yet free of such thoughts get charged up to fight back.
John of Dark, you are not behind Pajeroman either, pulling your wife also into the muck :-(
I really hope no kids join QL and learn new things...
It is a sad day...indeed....
Well this happened to me a year back. I was walking down the street near my house as couldnot get a cab then this man(sorry nothing personal)in a thob(the national costume)passes by in a big 4 wheeler he moves ahead stops the car and waves as though asking to come and sit and to make matter worse when ignored, as I kept walking he takes a U turn comes back and now he has a wad of cash(money) in his hand. I freaked and started to move faster and gave him a stern look...and guys mind you I was not dressed immodestly..I was in my damn ABAYA...what else do these perv need to stay off. Well I managed to dodge him and he was not seen
This is an ARAB Nation...women should feel protected and safe atleast here.
My thoughts are with you all who have gone through any such incidents.
This is getting silly now. Please, let us not resort to personal attacks and verbal diatribe. This is a forum for discussion. We may disagree with each other's viewpoints, but let's keep it clean.
I AM VOMITTING...AAARGHHHH.......
I know what the situation is like locally, and my point which you completely missed is that ignorant idiots such as yourself are the reason this region is in the dark ages.
This guy is hilerious....
The best part is he is telling me I walk around half naked....lol.... I do so wish there were proper smileys here.... so you can actually see what a hilerious idiot you are....
You are perverted Pajeroman... your mind is filthy and your thoughts are in the gutter.... Go back to your country where you don't have to deal with the likes of decent humans who actually see further than their own penises....
call on 999 even you dont talk to them if you called them more then one time they will call back you and this is emergencey number and it is tollfree number
LMAO @ pajero. Sounds like the kind of guy who blames women for getting raped. People like Pajero are the reason why the Middle East is still stuck in the dark ages, they refuse to acknowledge reality and just create a fictional version of the world that suits the dogma they wish to preach.
What about the high rates of homosexuality in the muslim countries? Is this ok since they won't be producing any 'bastards'? Maybe the men should start wearing abbayas and cover their faces too, perhaps that will reduce their desires for one another.
Pajeroman - you're listed as an "Admirer" on your profile.
Is that another way of saying you perv over women and follow them around "admiring" their ass-ets? I'm sure you only go on vacation to good, moral countries such as Saudi so you never have to see a half naked woman. I know you would never go to beaches in fear of seeing these "animals".
Admit it - you oggle a woman in a bikini just like every other (straight!) man.
Mitsubishi makes big sex toys....really big sex toys! At first I thought it was a car! Wonder how people use that?
No wonder the Japanese are losing their technological edge over the rest of the world.
The Chinese can make such little dildos and battery operated masturbators which are less conspicuous!
Next time, just start laughing at his pecker and take a picture with your mobile phone.
you can borrow my cricket bat so you can whack him in the balls next time.
Pajeromoron boil water putting mussels in it , and drink that. I have read it helps to reduce your libido. grow up
Ladies be watchful..ther are many worse incidents happening in doha, heard a phil couple were found locked inside an appartment, hubby n wife in different rooms and the lady was raped by their own company driver and two of his friends. Great Medias of qatar, they dont miss any of these incidents , wow.
pajero I see arab men also chasing women with abbayas, not just "3rd world expatriates". And as john said, if you have an issue controlling yourself then the problem lies with you and you are no different than animals.
FU, i do sleep... :P
Kbaisi, Xena, when abaya wearing women are not spared by this so called perverts, what happens to ladies like Xena she is already half naked, any hooligan might go to an extent of molesting her, because majority of the expatriate community come from third world countries, most of them married batchelors, they pass thier time watching western X rated movies and in back of thier minds they think all western people are naked "and it is a fact" this is your culture, a western man before he settle down in his life he sleeps with many women (an average 10)and vice versa, exposing your bodies is normal practice in your countries men and women indulging in open sex is also allowed in public, and all western nations feel proud of thier culture. If you bring the same culture to a conservating country like Qatar, obviously you will face problems.
If John thinks that I an animal he is worse than that, I have conveyed a simple message to wear an abaya to protect the modesty of the women, he is abusing whole muslim world without understanding their culture. My friend, you are degrading the women in your culture exposing her body and you are not protecting her.
As Xena said, here in the UK it's summer and I see women walking around in the skimpiest outfits with streets full of men and nobody bothers them, yet in Qatar go to any of the big malls and see how women with Abbayas are treated, even ones covering their face too! LOL. I think pajero is just trolling.
MJ - Don't you sleep ;) lol
lol as if wearing an abaya will ensure safety for women, keep dreaming..
reported rapes and assaults here are low simply because of attitudes like pajeroman and the social stigma atached . It happens here just as much as it does anywhere in the world - women here don't/won't go to the police for fear of arrest, for fear of being abandoned by their families, for fear .... (you fill in the blank).
do you have any idea how many women in Abhayas also get hit on?
Take you head out of the sand and take a look around you....
Actually, in my country, most men wouldn't even look at a woman who is dressed in shorts and a t-shirt, the way some men in Doha look at a women in abhaya...
What was so startling Nomerci? Stores are there to keep stocks anywhere in the world.
Shapil, LuLu has STOCK??? You are surely joking! No store in this here country has stock, at least not for the last 6 years.
Sorry for the hijack, but that post just startled me!
As an after thought you are right Eco..but she was under shock and only had split seconds to respond...people do crazy things when under pressure...look at all those missed penalites :)
Best thing to do is to learn self defense.
I am seriously considering that.
I would like so very much to kick those Mofu's arses.
entire neighbourhood would come to rescue, dont you think so
No Elegance but i heard it has a lot of stock keeping units and a large variety for almost anything.
Shapil, do you work in Lulu ? :-)
try lulu...it should have such self defence paraphernalia
But remember that you risk more chance getting injured by providing your attacker with gun, pepper spray, knife,etc... Screams, kicks, yelling, punches, etc are better bets....
OMG! I used to think Doha is pretty safe. I have experienced some mean remarks by men in 4 wheels who think they are the God. I am glad i read this post and will make sure i carry something in my bag. Can anyone pls let me know where can i buy a pepper spray from? Knife would be better but something that will startle the pervert would be better.
Lulu and all other ladies better wear your abayas and cover your face and dress modestly I am sure nobody would look at you, instead the person would think twice to make a move, since most of you westerns expose your bodies and move around freely without understanding the culture of the land. What about your countries are you people safe and secure? the percentage of rape, murder, kidnaps in your countries are common and higher compare to any Gulf countries, I am sure you are safe here.
may it is you or your friend lol
Mods... Please wake up...
It's not just in Qatar its happens everywhere. But when we first come here our senses are dulled into a false sense of security. Be very vigilant.
Its good that such incidents are coming up through QL as we cant expect it to be reported in the local press. It helps you to be more informed & vigilant.
luluRM, brit_qatar and other thanks for the warning info , very helpful for the new people get here... guyz just be more careful and vigilant (wacthful) in any places.... God Bless
Thanks for sharing your story. Glad that you got out of it in one piece and the idiots were caught.
My wife and a couple of friends were flashed at a few times in Saudi. Luckily, they weren't assaulted.
As you said, we need to be vigilant. If possible try and get a picture of the culprit.
Christmas Eve 2004, I had left work, went for a quick drink with friends, and went home, I lived on the 03rd floor at the time, I took the Elevator, went to put the key into the door, and was approached by 2 guys, one from the front and one from behind... they had went up the stairs and were following the Elevator Level.
They started to grab me... I took the key, managed to cut one of the guys faces... and the other punched me in the face, I ran from apartment door to apartment door banging and screaming for help, but everyone was out... eventually someone opened the door... and I got to safety.
This is the first time I have spoken out about this and I think there are alot more stories like this around... luckily for me, I am a tough girl, and can fight back, I am thankful it was me, and not someone weaker / smaller.
These 02 guys were caught by the police, recieved lashes and were both deported, they had been drinking 100% alcohol / parfum... and admitted they had been watching me for 2 weeks... I ended up with a Fractured arm and a black eye, thank god nothing more happened.
Just be careful ladies, this happens everywhere in the world, no matter how safe you think the place is where you live etc.
Damn, these things happen often in Qatar. You need to be more aware of your surroundings at all times.
similar incident happened to one of my friends in lulu hypermarket parking lot. he was exposing ..... and the worst part was the irresponsible security guard was standing few meters away.
Itsforus, I was really scared and just wanted run to my husband...thats why couldnt take the taxi number...
LuLU, all you need to do is take pics of him with your mobile. A. he will run as fast as he can ,b. you have evidence.
Ice maiden, that's why it is important for women like us to learn how to defend ourselves, because sometimes, the people that we expect to help us are useless...
From my experience reporting to authorities hardly makes any difference.
Went to a police station when a guy who was following me tried to push me off the road ie the Wakra Ummsaid highway...Want to know what the stupid officer said....Wallahi woman like you...anyone follow...me also....
@#$%^&* ....was really angry, mad as hell, all my primal instincts came to the surface, but told myself to calm down and just walked out of the station.
Xena, sadly, narrow-minded people are also lurking about like these sickos...
Quagmire, so that kind of 'rape' is acceptable? Sure... Rape IS rape!!!
heard about a lot of rape cases in the desert and true they go unmentioned in the media.
However, rape in doha is different than anywhere else. Other places, the victim is threatened, beaten up and yelled at and sometimes killed, In Doha, many males in the car tell the girl, we are not going to hurt you, they actually do not beat her or do anything to her but they make her know that she is only getting out of the car once they are done of her. and once done, they actually take her back home lol.
Very weird but i was told that by number of people, and one victim.
Eesh, I ran after a guy who was standing on the road side right in front of Sharjah City center(can you imagine his guts...). I could not run with my overweight and so screamed at the top of my voice "Stop. Or I will call the police". To my luck(and to his bad luck :-) he stopped. Some guys who obviously knew him gathered and said" If you call the police he will be deported tomorrow. Please dont make his family starve". I gave him two slaps and went back home...
I got so mad as my daughter and I were shopping for her Birthday dress and did'nt deserve this.
Some of the lady friends said his "interest" might have disappeared for some time atleast if not forever.....
There's been quite a few reported cases now - and the beaches are another place to be careful of.
A lot of ladies walk their dogs on the beach very early in the morning on their own and can be victims too. Please don't go on your own - take a friend with you.
Wait till it happens to their wifes, sisters or mothers and then see what they have too say...
Doha isn't the safe place its made out to be Sag and Saler... the only reason you seem to think it is, is because you never hear about these things happening...
There are many women on QL that can relate similar and worse stories about things that have happened to them....
The problem with you two is that you don't wanna see the truth and wanna keep living in your little bubble.... Please don't come to this forum when that bubble bursts.... we will definately not have any sympathy...
So every woman has had experience with sickos.....Why can't some men understand when a woman says Not Interested , she means not interested.
What makes me raging mad is even when I am with my kids , these despos display their idiotic talents. It really brings out the tigress in me. Grrrrrrr.....
girls ..dont go out ..sit at home only
I didnt do it!
And I'll not do it again~! :P
Nice copy and paste.
somwer, I wouldn't mind that, if that was allowed here.. :P I don't think so....
ah okay, .45 caliber pistol Desert Eagle will do? hehehehe
somwer, cheap perfume to be used on perverts and sickos is not harsh enough for me... i told you i need something that would cause more pain to the person.. :P
LOL MJ! buy something cheap in Ansar City :)
In INDIA, the ladies who returns late after their work timings, they prefer to keep one sharp knife or chilly powder in their purse to use it at the time of such incident...
Exactly the same incident happened with my neighbour just at the garage area of our building last year when she was waiting for her hubby who was busy in taking out his car from the car park..She was in trauma for few days...
but somwer, I wouldn't want to waste my perfume on some pervert.. I prefer something that would hurt him even more, like a thousand volts of electricity flowing thru his body.. :P
ladies, you can use your perfume sprays if you don't have Mace
I think it is great that you have found Doha peaceful and safe and I am sure on the whole it is Sag..I wanted to share this experience (which did happen)so men and women will be extra vigilent..thats it! no other reason than to advise that we lock our car doors..thank you all for your replies.
you are a waste of space - get a life and wake up to what really goes on
they should allow ladies to carry a stun gun here... or a Mace.. I for one would like to know where to get one..
my wife was driving down Salwa Road with our kids (5 and 2) when a guy in a white landcruiser pulled up next to her and started making rude gestures with his tongue at her. My daughter was even asking what the man was doing. My wife ignired him and kept driving towards Hyatt plaza where she was heading. this guy followed her all the way from Salwa road up aspire zone and down to Hyatt plaza into the parking lot. When she parked he stopped the car and got out asking her to be his girlfriend. She pulled out her phone and pretended to take photos of hie license plate (she didnt actually have a camera phone!) and he bolted.... wish i had been in the car! My wife did the right thing I think by "pretending" to take his photo
All the Ladies PM Me, i shall give you all the address....:)
Your still lucky..some cases here in doha, an apartment where occupied by all woman, stranger came and knocked their door...they open and the man forcely entered the room and rape them. So even in your home, lock your doors always and never entertain an strangers.
oh for crying out loud sag!! perverts live and thrive everywhere!! he may be anyone you know or anyone in your neighborhood, he may be even your neighbor or maybe it was you!
Rizks, where to get it from? I think every lady here needs one.
Rizks, i think thats a great idea... where can i get one?
just because an area is inhabited by families doesn't mean that perverts won't be lurking around.. this is not an isolated incident..regardless of time and place, they're just everywhere, you just haven't encountered one yet.. why, even at an ATM machine in a public place in broad daylight, one tried to approach us before, we were just brave enough to tell him to go F-Off...
all the ladies should carry an automatic 55000Volts Electric rifle in their purses when the go out.....:)
hmm really scary, similar stuff happened to me once, i was outside mashata beauty salon, it was after the sunset and when I was going back to my car, one guy was following me and trying to catch my attention, I completely ignored him but walked fast towards my car, the moment i got into the car I locked the door and found him next to my car knocking on my window, I was about to have a heart attack, but I started the car and ran away... God knows what his intention was, maybe he wanted to ask for some money or help, but whatever, it was very scary for me as the road was empty and he was following me from far, and knocking on my window... may God bless all the ladies from this type of incident…
Simply because she has no eidence. That area is inhabited by families and hence no question of any perverts daring for such acts.
Calm down boys !
This can be an ALERT for other ladies sitting alone in a car, walking alone, or anywere Alone - to take extra care and be in places were u find some peoples or atleast a BIRD....lol
do you really believe that these sickos care where they display their perversion? heck, i think they would do it in the middle of a traffic if they feel like it...
calm and peaceful to you but not for her at that time and what's the big idea about her fabricating her story?
well, swndmidl, the area she is refering to is not busy area. its a calm and peaceful area in Bin omran behind town centre. she might probobly be just passing her time of her whims.
put AC on before locking doors and glass ,
good thing your door was locked at that time geez! next time don't stay alon in your car, go with your husband.
sag, how encouraging your comment is, what if that happens to your mother or wife or daughter what would you do?
alone women; opportunity to make friends....Ignore men discussions, when walking or riding in a cab..to be safe
Ridiculous!! Such people should be reported to the authorities. However, i think these are pretty rare cases in Doha, unless QLers think otherwise.
Pathetic & stubborn
the different kind of case happened with me few months back..I had to take taxi from Salwa Road to Ramada. It was evening time nearly 6 PM. I was very new to Doha but I was knowing the way to go to Ramada as it was straight road. I took Karwa, the taxi driver was Indian. He started talking to me in our language and I was avoiding him. Then he took left from Decoration R/A, so I told him you took wrong way. He repiled that he will take short cut...I told him to take U turn and take me to the same main road again. But that fellow took somewhere inside, it looked like residencial area. He started talking all nonsense that he stoped the car becz he saw me and I am so beautiful etc etc... I was really scared, so I told him to stop the car but he said he will drop me at Ramada. Then I called my husband and He was on call with me till I reached Ramada.
Believe me I was so scared, as soon as I reached Ramada, I gave him money whatever was in my hand and I ran towards my hubby...
My hubby went to see if the cab is still there to note the number and complain about it but he left before that...
luluRM, so you want all to believe in your fabricated story of your whims?
a certified lunatic...!what else is new in qatar?perverts are flooding here...
He was standing between the car and a wall and calmly walked away..two men were walking by and only noticed me banging on the window and not the man.Really it has left me feeling very nervous..it happened right outside a mosque during evening (maghrib)prayer time,I wish I had taken a pic with my mobile,I was on the phone to my Dad at the time..he nearly had a heart attack when he heard me screaming!
LuluRM, you said you were on the busy road...what people around were doing while that psyco was exposing and trying to open the door...
This happens a lot in Doha but rarely does it get reported by the victims.
What an idiot. I hope there was a CCTV somewhere near to help catching him.
sick perverts are everywhere..specially isolated areas...
we should be careful and try not to look at them...
but trying to open the door is really scaryy...
oh I was thinking Doha is safest place for women. I never locked the door while waiting for my husband...need to be careful.
what a pervert! good that you keep your door locked... I think a chainsaw should be added to car tools.. it could be handy at times like this.
TFS, its a lesson learnt for the day.
OMG... thanks 4 the warning.... i never lock the door while waitin!! from now on i willl....
So sorry to hear of your incident. Hope the moron is caught and punished..
WTH.....sick pervert, you should have clicked his photo with you mobile .......sickooo