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These are some of Mo7md cartoons on ALRAYA newspaper

Cartoon translation: Title : Tourism in Qatar

Translation:
Father to his family:
As we are not traveling abroad this year....where to go? where to go?

  • the Corniche?....Too Hot !!!

  • The city center? ......A lot of Traffic!!!
  • The Falafel Restaurant ?? ...Closed by the Municipality!!!

Then there's nothing else except your grandmother's house, she has a very nice backyard!!

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Cartoon translation:
(Welcome people of the world to LONDON's Olympic Games)

Cartoon translation: Title: A Vacation in Singapore
Father to family: Stop the boy, he's going to get us into a lot of trouble
Father to son: you idiot, couldn't you find somewhere better to throw the can of Pepsi except the street, where do you think we are? (Doha Corniche)??

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Cartoon 4
Title: on Tuesday ....The enforcement of the new traffic law
Guys! Quick! this is your last chance, 2 days to commit to the new law!
Me and Blaloo will go now and pass a red traffic light, and get our car flipped!
Aboud! you have a race with a Karwa bus and drift!
Salloh! Place the kids in the front seats and make sure their seat belts are NOT fastened!!
Salloom! Eat a falafel sandwich with Merinda while you're driving!
Babu! Open the door's car and spit in the street !!

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MagicDragon's picture

MagicDragon said and you think that's funny? ...

and you think that's funny?

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said Doctora.. ...

Yes! They show that Qataris worry about the same basic things as expatriates.. We would probabaly have the same in the UK..

 

tallg's picture

tallg said Nice one! Is this cartoonist ...

Nice one! Is this cartoonist famous, or just well known in Qatar?

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said I don't know tallg maybe ...

I don't know tallg maybe famous in Qatar only
Magic dragon : he have hundreds of cartoons, unfortunately these are the ones i could translate right, I'm not a translator...
at least i made an effort show you a side of Qatari you never knew (as there are people here who accuse us of not tolerating criticism), what have you done to understand my culture?????????????????????

 

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Dracula said ana asef, where's the fun ...

ana asef, where's the fun here?
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MagicDragon's picture

MagicDragon said Doctora, I live here with my ...

Doctora, I live here with my family since 1993. We are loved and respected by all our Qatari friends to an unmeasurable extent. We do love and respect these Qataris to the same extent. But I didn't like the first cartoon too much. Maybe, I misunderstood it.

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Dracula ...

Read my previous remark
i see that you speak a little arabic then you can see his other Cartoons?no?

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Magic dragon ...

the 1st one is TODAY's cartoon by the way 28/8/2008
maybe he made it in response to the Qatari kid who was killed in UK

 

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baldrick2dogs said I found the London cartoon quite offensive and ...

Another instance of profiling / stereotyping

The guy on the left is obviously an Egyptian butcher (no shirt)

The guy in the middle is a Saudi (matching track suit pants & top and gold tooth).

The guy on the right is sooooo Lebanese (too much jewelery and dyed hair.

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Baldrick - Qatar's answer to Google ;o)

 

MagicDragon's picture

MagicDragon said If it is meant ironically, ...

If it is meant ironically, it would be funny. I just didn't read it with my "ironic" antennas on.

 

tallg's picture

tallg said Doctora - thanks for posting ...

Doctora - thanks for posting them. But there's a difference between being able to laugh at yourself and being able to accept criticism (not that I think Qataris aren't able to do either).

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said DOG ...

it shows the racist in you?
what ???cannot accept criticism of your own country??? now you are making fun of other ARABS ???? those 3 people in the cartoons are your kind, couldn't you recognize them ???!!!!

 

Oryx's picture

Oryx said Hilarious - Doctora ...

Love them I am going to send this link to all my chums.
Thanks for taking he trouble to translate... hilarious

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Oryx and tallg ...

i will try and translate more inshalla

 

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Qatari1 said Doctora ...

hahaha that was funny and scary =S

Doctora i used your translation to for this cartoon..

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Thanks Qatar!!

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Qatar1 ...

hahaha
Brilliant

 

force1's picture

force1 said Doctora... ...

the cartoons are great but howcome you are qatari but don't seem to understand much arabic

 

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heero_yuy2 said I find it funny ...

I was a former newspaper cartoonist myself and I can say it is funny.

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

 

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britexpat said Doctora.. ...

Cartoons are used to make a statement either through humour or otherwise.

The first cartoon is making a statement, but to me is not funny.


 

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TweetyBird said I loved the cartoons. Thank ...

I loved the cartoons. Thank you for sharing. The insight into your culture is appreciated.

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said force 1 ...

what do you mean not understand much arabic? care to elaborate ?? i could not understand your point

 

qatari's picture

qatari said nice :) ...

very funny!

 

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baldrick2dogs said Doctora ...

If the London one was done by a Brit, highlighting problems with the Asian Games there'd be uproar!

I just put a spin on it to show that us Brit's don't give a rat's arse who takes the piss out of us.

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Baldrick - Qatar's answer to Google ;o)

 

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baldrick2dogs said ... besides ... ...

... there are probably more Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Romanians, Greeks and Australians in London than there are Brits these days!!

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Baldrick - Qatar's answer to Google ;o)

 

Enigma's picture

Enigma said Good one ...

Good one, all you make

 

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MR PAUL said The cartoon about London isnt stereotypical at all is it ? ...

Giving the assumption thaty all Brits are weapon weilding,violent yobbos.

How offensive do ya think some people will find it doctora.

When the dutch showed those cartoons of mohammed, the muslim world was in uproar, and now this stupid idiot draws this....

This may just inflame the already tense muslim/anti muslim feelings...

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

 

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britexpat said MP.. ...

I don't think the analogy works..

However, I do find the cartoon offensive and inappropriate because it depicts a picture of the UK which is untrue. I am saddened by the loss of the young life, but it dioes not mean that London is a city rife with violance and murder..

Here the Cartoonist is playing on the grief and anger of a nation and trying to get brownie points from them.

 

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Renee said Have you noticed that none ...

Have you noticed that none of us “ignorant” "racist" "leeches" ex-pats have called for the death of the cartoonist...

 

tallg's picture

tallg said force1 - it's not that ...

force1 - it's not that doctora doesn't understand Arabic, it's the translation into English that she understandable found hard.

 

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ngourlay said 2012 olympics ...

Heh. I like the olympic cartoon. Reminds me of a competition b3ta held a while ago to design the London mascot (some are rude, sorry). Here's my favorite, Stabby the knife:
http://www.b3ta.com/...

And here are the rest:
http://www.b3ta.com/...


 

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tallg said I don't find the London ...

I don't find the London cartoon offensive. It's just using a well known British stereotype, something that cartoons do all the time about subjects and countries all round the world. Indeed, most of the ones in the link ngourlay posted do exactly the same.

As with all stereotypes though, both positive and negative, we know that they don't apply to the entire population.

btw, good to see you're still around ngourlay.

 

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britexpat said TallG.. ...

Sorry , I must disagree..This is sensationalizing. If the cartoon was about binge drinking or the stupid Gordon Brown etc , I would be happy with it..

This is taking a sad incident that occurred and making London out to be full of violent people..

Yesterday, a girl was killed in a drive by shooting in Chicago.. Woulkd a cartoon showing Chicago with drivers shooting left right and centre be appropriate. I think not!

 

tallg's picture

tallg said The cartoon may have been ...

The cartoon may have been inspired by the sad incident, but the stereotype of hooliganism and drunken violence has been around for decades.

 

genesis's picture

genesis said tallg ...

i find the cartoon distasteful. Plus i couldn't figure out what the middle guy present. Assuming the other two are skinheads & punks.

 

tallg's picture

tallg said Well, I guess this is a good ...

Well, I guess this is a good example of how different people interpret things differently and some get offended and some don't. So perhaps we can now better understand why some Qataris get upset at the generalisations and stereotypes being talked about on QL, while others are able to shrug it off and laugh at themselves.

 

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britexpat said TallG.. ...

Agree with you there.. Having worked in various countries in the Middle East and else where, I can say that my personal experience is that Qataris are very easy going and accomodating.

expatriates always whine. Especially those who haven't been to many other countries. There are morons in all societies, so we have to learn to live with them

 

genesis's picture

genesis said tallg ...

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't find for instance Qatarsucks.com offending, since the guy always cover stories that are in the media already. But here, when someone like "rami-leb" call the Islamic museum a failure, & corrupted , although it's not yet opened. Thats not generalization, or is it?


 

tallg's picture

tallg said Some of the user comments on ...

Some of the user comments on qatarsucks are pretty offensive though!!!

I didn't see the comment, but unless there are facts given to back up the claims about the Islamic museum then yes, that is offensive. Again, without seeing the comment it's hard to judge, but it sounds quite specific rather than generalising or stereotyping.

 

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Scotiabank said renee- Have you noticed that ...

renee- Have you noticed that I and the other Qataris who have tolerated so much crap thrown our way on these forums never have called for the death of those making those racist ignorant comments? Oh forgive me, I forgot that the actions of some Qataris will represent me and all the other Qataris to you guys.

Doctora - Good post! Some funny stuff there.

 

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heero_yuy2 said if nobody made a fuzz on the Qatari in UK incident ...

...this criticism on cartoons'll never be there.

But then again...

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said I (and many Qataris) did not ...

I (and many Qataris) did not find the UK cartoon any offensive, on the contrary, we found it hilarious and funny.
It shows the THUGS in UK that people will encounter. is that a generalization?? no, it's a CARTOON, the man is not entitled to show each stereotype (good or bad) in a cartoon....maybe you found it offensive because it is from a QATARI
MR PAUL and RENEE don't even hint to (Prophet Mohammed) cartoon and compare it with the UK cartoon , don't go into this area or it this thread will be an ugly thread!!

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said qatarsucks.com/ ...

I cannot access this site!! Am I the only one here ?? or is it really blocked by QTel


 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Qatari or Arab fellows ...

If you could please translate this word into english, i couldn't quiet get it right..
تحفص عليه

 

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tallg said Yes, it is unsurprisingly ...

Yes, it is unsurprisingly blocked by qtel. You're not missing much though.

 

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MR PAUL said What doctora, you want a fight ? ...

cos if yer do, your going the right way about it.

Where in my post did i slag off your prophet ? Nowhere, so dont even try to put words in my mouth.

The dutch printed something that SOME people found offensive.You have posted something that SOME people may find offensive.
There is no difference.

Both are typical stereotypes, and both are wrong.

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Mr Paul ...

didn't you write this or am mistaken????????????

((When the dutch showed those cartoons of mohammed, the muslim world was in uproar, and now this stupid idiot draws this....
This may just inflame the already tense muslim/anti muslim feelings...))))

what has this cartoon have to do with religion??????? what mulism/anti muslim feelings???????

you will never understand our feelings about the prophet (Peace be upon him) unless you are a muslim...so PLEASE DON'T OPEN THIS DOOR AGAIN.....I don't want any fights with you or with anyone else.....

 

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MR PAUL said It has nothing to do with religion.It has everything to do with ...

stereotyping different cultures and nationalities, which is wrong.

Like i said, SOME people may find this profiling of Londoners and Britain offensive, just as the Muslim population found that idiot dutchmans cartoons offensive.

You see my point ?

And just for the record, although i believe in freedom of speech, i do think that dutch man overstepped the mark.

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

 

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tallg said Mr Paul has a point. Why is ...

Mr Paul has a point. Why is religion off limits to stereotyping cartoons? Some people may be offended by the cartoon of the prophet, but equally some people may be just as offended by the london cartoon above.

 

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Doctora said OK i will be deliberately ...

OK i will be deliberately ignoring any comments about the Prophet's cartoons..although i'd prefer if we'd call them the danish cartoons....
if you want to talk about the above cartoons be my guest but don't compare it with the danish cartoons

 

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tallg said Weren't they danish ...

Weren't they danish cartoons? Anyway.

I don't understand why they can't be compared, but you're obviously not prepared to talk about.

 

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DoraTheExplorer said sorry but are they supposed ...

sorry but are they supposed to be funny? What a strange sense of humour someone has.....I just don't get it!!

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said tallg ...

thanks for correcting me...yes danish cartoons

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said tallg and mr paul ...

if you both are soo keen to talk about them open another thread and you will find a lot of people to argue with

 

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britexpat said I must agree with Doctora.. ...

I must agree with Doctora.. We don't want to go that route, but can discuss the use of cartoons for satire and lampooning in general..

 

tallg's picture

tallg said Fair enough, I don't want to ...

Fair enough, I don't want to drag QL down any further than it already has been over the past couple of days, so I wont push it any further. All I say is I don't see why religion is off bounds while other topics are ok even though they have an equal ability to offend.

Thanks again for sharing the cartoons Doctora, it's nice to gain an insight into an aspect of Qatar life I don't get to experience.

 

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Platao36 said I just would like to state ...

I just would like to state that there's a slight difference between cartoons, the danish cartoons made thousands of people going to the street protesting and threatning to kill the authors, how many british did the same due to these caricatures?
So, i think british are more tolerant, wanna bet that if i put here a caricature with Jesus no one will threaten me to death? or that there wont be folks concentrating to protest against them?
What this world needs most is sense of humour :)

Plse do note, i ain't attacking Islam or any other religion, it would be fun if people would post more drawnings as these ones without fear.

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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britexpat said Platao36.. ...

Perhaps you need to have a look at Monty Python's Life of Brian..

 

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Platao36 said Brit: ahahahahahahahah, one ...

Brit: ahahahahahahahah, one of the funniest movies i saw, i'll add some links on you tube that show the funniest scenes :)
I can also add some clips from The meaning of life, what do you think?

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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Platao36 said These clips are part of a ...

These clips are part of a live act by Monty Python:

http://www.youtube.c...

will post more in a bite

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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Platao36 said i'm gonna make a post with ...

i'm gonna make a post with links to some funny youtube clips.
Brit: remember benny hill? :D

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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DoraTheExplorer said benny hill is a ...

benny hill is a buffoon....was a....

 

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britexpat said Platao36.. ...

Remember them all well..

Used to watch all the Monty Python on TV.. Then I saw some of them again a couple of years ago and they seem so dated..

but you mor3e than anyone should realise that "NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION"..

 

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Platao36 said lol, you mean ...

lol, you mean this:

http://www.youtube.c...

;)

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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britexpat said Platao36.. ...

No! And I thought you were a monty python fan...

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....
Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency....
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
Our four... no...
Amongst our weapons... Amongst our weaponry...
are such elements as fear, surprise...

And so it goes..

 

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Platao36 said i am, go check my post ...

i am, go check my post :)

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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adnanmzfr said Cartoon no 1 really reminds ...

Cartoon no 1 really reminds me when i had arrived in Doha and used to see its map quite a lot but being inside the air conditioned room. I did not have the residence ID so could not have my own car and have a license before hand.

One day i intended to go to have a look at the sea site as i thought that the seas may be as attractive as a Red sea in jeddah. I took a bus but got the wrong one from LULU hyper market, it dropped me at some unknown place. I had to walk a lot in great heat to reach some other place to find another bus, it was really unforgettable memory.

I managed to reurn in the evening to my apartment wihout suffering heat stroke :-).

 

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thexonic said oh god, I bet I can write ...

oh god, I bet I can write better comics than these people. What a waste of talent. Probably even cookie monster is better at it lol.

J/k, no need to get offended. The humor is crap, but the concept is good. But then these cartoons are not made for humor anyways...

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(Lebanon A piece of Heaven on Earth)



 

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Platao36 said thexonic, yeaps, good idea ...

thexonic, yeaps, good idea but no funny context, try checking the monty python classics i added on my post ;)

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

 

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DaRuDe said I really ...

like the cartoons published in Arabic newspaper. find them way much funny.
 

 

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dmigtysolomon said I find the cartoon funny IMHO,... ...

nobody should be offended by any of the cartoon even if it sends chill to some. Let us remember that the recent situation here in local news is about that Qatari student and the cartoon is just part of current events.

It's the same things as security bulletins issued by certain countries to a certain country regarding warning to their citizens regarding security threats on a specific country. Its sounds offending to many but we just have to ignore it as part of their work.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

 

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Tigasin321 said Good thread Doctora ...

I like these cartoons. They confirm what I have always thought - Qataris have a good sense of humor and have the ability to laugh at themselves as well as at others. I see nothing offensive about them at all.

Post some more please with the translations.

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about


 

diamond's picture

diamond said That's right Tig. If you're ...

That's right Tig. If you're Qatari you need that on QL.

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jauntie said Me too ! see no offense here at ALL! ...

In fact somewhere I have a cartoon depicting the world's view of us in the UK when we first got the 2012 Games and it was far more offensive, and even MORE true than the cartoon doctor posted.

If I can find it I'll put it up here. Actually I think it was a slide show likening previous Cities which had held the games to how London be as a host. London was all graffiti and slums lol

You see that red double-decker at the closing of the Games in Beijing? I heard a guy on BBC say it may be more fitting at the opening of the games in 2012, for the lid of the bus and the doors to fly off in an explosion and then the athletes run out of it. Now that WAS 'sick' ! lol

 

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Alexa said Jauntie, you are wicked!;) A ...

Jauntie, you are wicked!;)

A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa

 

Doctora's picture

Doctora said Tigasin ...

No problem... I'll be happy to translate more... :-)
I'll try and get new ones as well, as some of these are old

 

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